ExpoScout's 03 Tundra

sourdough

Adventurer
Great model choice and find with low mileage. You did well. I looked along time before finding my low mileage '03 Limited. I've added 30,000 to the odometer and really like it. I've owned several Toyota products and they are very reliable. I recommend that tire size and either model shock.
I run a fiberglass shell and haul a lot of camping and recovery gear with me. If you haul much you will notice some bottoming out because the rear springs are a little light. You have several options. I went with Firestone bags and Daystar bag cradles because it doesn't effect the ride. I can now haul my FWC Hawk pop up no problem. Other than replacement springs you might also concider a pair of these....http://www.torklift.com/products/stableload.php which i didn't know about until i had the air bags. :smiley_drive:
 

ExpoScout

Explorer
Great model choice and find with low mileage. You did well. I looked along time before finding my low mileage '03 Limited. I've added 30,000 to the odometer and really like it. I've owned several Toyota products and they are very reliable. I recommend that tire size and either model shock.
I run a fiberglass shell and haul a lot of camping and recovery gear with me. If you haul much you will notice some bottoming out because the rear springs are a little light. You have several options. I went with Firestone bags and Daystar bag cradles because it doesn't effect the ride. I can now haul my FWC Hawk pop up no problem. Other than replacement springs you might also concider a pair of these....http://www.torklift.com/products/stableload.php which i didn't know about until i had the air bags. :smiley_drive:

Awesome. Thanks for the info.
 

ExpoScout

Explorer
Quick question for the other first gen guys. Just noticed when under the truck that both of the inner cv boots are slinging a little grease out. It's not a lot but its there. Not sure if it was like that when I got it. Anyway, from what I gather its probably best to just replace both of them now...but being that they haven't slung out too much it seems, if I could do the hose clamp mod now and salvage what I've got I suppose I could replace them later when they were an actual problem, or as money allows.

What are your thoughts?
 

Derek24

Explorer
If it just a little I would not worry and just hose clamp them now. Maybe you can get something in there to add a little more axle grease but I think you should be fine. Unless they are ripped you don't need to replace them, and when you do it's not very hard to replace. I have a DIY thread on here for it.
 

seanpistol

Explorer
Quick question for the other first gen guys. Just noticed when under the truck that both of the inner cv boots are slinging a little grease out. It's not a lot but its there. Not sure if it was like that when I got it. Anyway, from what I gather its probably best to just replace both of them now...but being that they haven't slung out too much it seems, if I could do the hose clamp mod now and salvage what I've got I suppose I could replace them later when they were an actual problem, or as money allows.

What are your thoughts?

If they are slinging grease I would assume that they are torn and not just throwing grease out of the end. Mine were. Luckily CV grease is real nasty, thick, waterproof stuff. Even with torn boots (mine were torn when I bought the truck so who knows how long they were torn)- my inner CV axles were still coated in grease and protected from the elements.

If they are torn, replace them. I replaced mine with Bates style 930 boots from Kartek. They are about twice as big as the stock boots, and the rubber was much more flexible than the stock boots with 90k. The new boots only clamp on the inside- the side over the axle is left unclamped to "breathe". My truck has about 3" of lift in the front along with the 1" diff drop. The increased angle on the CVs in combination with these larger boots have completely fixed the problem.

It was fairly easy to change the boots, just took about 4 hours of my time since you have to remove the axles from the differential. Not hard to do, and I'd recommend changing the boots- especially if you are sitting a little taller in the front and play offroad. Might as well do it right.



Here's how to go about changing them-

I bought the Bates 930 boots from Kartek and their clamps. Call them and they'll set you up with the right parts. I bought two packs of CV joint grease and borrowed/rented a 36mm socket from the auto parts store.

Jack the truck up, remove wheels. Remove the rusted on dust cover from hub with a chisel and hammer. Remove cotter pin and 36mm axle nut with a cheater bar while having someone holding the brakes and steering wheel.

Remove the 4 bolts that hold the lower arm to the steering knuckle and pull back the steering knuckle with brake rotor, spindle and all still attached. Simultaneously shimmy the CV axle out of the hub. They make a special service tool that kind of looks like a crowbar to hammer the CV axle out of the differential. You can find a description of how to do this in your FSM. I had someone hold the rotor/spindle to the side while I give the CV half shaft a good tug, and it slips out of the differential relatively easy. Have a bucket to catch the about a half quart of gear oil that leaks out of the differential. I don't see the need to purchase a SST or hit anything with a hammer, but some people will swear that you do. Both driver and passengers sides came out with a solid tug.

If you have a vise on a bench, use it. Cut away the torn inner boot and clean off enough CV grease from the inside of the joint where that boot was to see the snap ring. Use snap ring pliers to expand the snap ring and that joint slides right off. Slide the new boot on and fill it up with CV grease and slide the joint back onto the half shaft, lining up the splines. Clamp the new boot on.

Have someone again hold the steering knuckle/spindle/brake combo to the side, line up the splines and slide the cv half shaft into the differential. It will slide in about half way. Put the 36mm nut back on, grab a block of wood and a hammer and gently tap it in the rest of the way. Button the rest back up the way you took it apart and top off the gear oil in the diff and you're done.

30,000 miles later with a lot of wheeling and I am not throwing grease anywhere- my boots look healthy, and my CV axles are in great shape.
 

ExpoScout

Explorer
No I checked them and its just coming out of the large boot ends near the diff. I'm gonna try the hose clamp mod and see how it works. Worse case scenario I'm out a couple bucks. Thanks for the input guys.
 

ExpoScout

Explorer
Also, just did my second fill up. Pretty excited as it was nearly 50% city driving and I still averaged 16.9 mpg! I guess that means the fuel system is in good shape. I'm still going to replace the fuel filter being that its 10 years old. I'll probably do a couple other things that aren't necessary yet, but I'd rather start on a fresh slate and not wonder.
 

ExpoScout

Explorer
there ya go!

I'm definitely going to need to pick your brain ( and the other guys with first gens) about lifts/tires/wheels when I get to that point. I'm more confused now than ever. TS has a lot of info but I hate having to wade through the endless threads and posts about dune trucks and low riders.
 

ExpoScout

Explorer
I was looking at wheelers steel wheels. I do think the 5100s will be the ticket. But I'm getting a bunch of different opinions as to what tire sizes can be successfully used without rubbing. Do the UCAs make that big of a difference? Is it just a travel issue? Or do they provide clearance? Would I be able to get away without having them and retaining the stock arms?
 

seanpistol

Explorer
Wheelers steelies are nice, they look good and are a good price. They have them with the right backspacing to avoid rubbing. 5100s are adjustable for up to 2.5" of lift and can be used with your stock coils or you can swap in some Old Man Emu Tacoma coils. With 33's (285/75r16) some people have to trim the pinch weld, but I haven't done it myself and don't get any rub. 255/85 is also a nice tire size if you like the tall skinny.

If you have a a few inches of lift in the front the stock upper ball joint will be maxed out. UCAs fix this and also add a few inches to your wheel travel (I believe Camburg claims 4"). You can get away with out them, but if you're wheeling your truck the uniball UCAs are definitely the way to go.
 

Stone_Blue

Adventurer
If you DO go with a 255/85, yeah definatley look into some wheels with less back spacing. I went with stock 7" Tacoma steelies, 5100s w/OME coils, and have a set of TC UCAs to put in. Even with 1 1/8" wheel spacers, my tires are still well within the wheel wells...I was hoping they would end up flush, or little past the fender flares.

I got about 2.75"-3" lift in the front, and I didnt like the UBJ angles, and seeing several posts by people who had LBJ failures makes me leary of lifting that much with stock BJs, so thats why I went with the UCAs. But a lot of people are running 2.5" with just 5100s on stock coils with no issues. I highly recommend the diff drop. A lot of people say its worthless, at the least it wont hurt, and at best may help. I figure its cheap insurance at only $25 and 20 mins install time. Its a one-banana install...ANYONE can install it.
As to rubbing, I dont have ANY rub...I have about 1/8" between the tire and frame at full lock, but thats with 255s. I also have about 1" between the tire and stock UCA. I tried fitment without the wheel spacers, and the wheels/tires wouldnt mount because they hit the UCA. If I had gone bigger or wider, with the stock Toyota steelies, I would have rubbing issues, so I lucked out.
I STILL do need to get an alignment though, so things may change for me.

Oh, and my 255s are Maxxis Bighorns, so they have some pretty big side lugs...An AT or milder mud tire in a 255 would probably have much more clearance than mine.
 
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Haggis

Appalachian Ridgerunner
Would I be able to get away without having them and retaining the stock arms?

If you get a set of wheels with 4" backspacing you will not have any issues with the control arms. My set-up up front is with the Bilstiens set at the 2.5" notch and the wheels are 16x8s with the 4"backspace.
 

Falkon

Adventurer
Ive got a double cab(I have heard they have larger wheel wells) with 5100s at the top notch. Stock arms, 1.25" spidertraxx adapters, Coopet ST Maxx 285/75/17, 4.5" bs wheels.

I had to cut and hammer the pinch weld to gain a couple of extra inches to alleviate the rubbing. Worked well.

- Chris
 

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