F150 with the Heavy Duty Payload Package?

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
The 2.7 is completely different than the 3.5 in terms of fuel economy. My suspicion is a 3.5 4x4 with any sort of max tow or payload package isn’t going to see dramatically better fuel economy than a 250/2500. Looking at Fuelly for a 2019 F150 with the 3.5 the average is right at 15 MPG. That of course is not broken down by cab, driveline, or other specs.

Ride quality on the Ram 2500 is really good, especially with proper tire pressure. The only negative for me is the fuel economy sucks, sitting at 12.6 steady right now. So a 3.5 Ecoboost would probably get me 1.4 to 2 MPG but I would lose the solid front axle, long bed, tow capacity, and payload. At 10,000 miles a year and $3 a gallon for fuel it’s about $380 extra to drive the 2500.

15 non-towing sounds low. I reset my 2nd trip meter after my last towing trip in October, and my overall MPG, non-towing, has been 18.2. That's AFTER I calibrated the on board computer (there are instructions on the F-150 forum on how to do that, it's pretty slick.)

Virtually all of my driving is urban/suburban (20 mile round trip commute to work) and I have been averaging right around 17 on Winter gas.

Towing MPG is the same or a tad lower than what I was getting in my '04 Suburban, 9 - 11 MPG when towing a high-profile travel trailer over an 11,000' pass.

The difference is that the Suburban made it to the top in 1st gear (literally, in 1st gear) with the engine screaming at 5,000+ RPM and going MAYBE 30 mph.

With the 3.5 EcoBoost I'm in the left lane, going 65+ trying to pass slower vehicles and the engine isn't even breaking a sweat.
 
Last edited:
D

Deleted member 9101

Guest
I absolutely love mine. I've owned a 2013, 17, 18, and 19, all 3.5 eco's. Have driven many 5.0l's and they're just absolute dogs compared to the eco's.

Amen!!!

There is no comparison between the 3.5 and the 5.0. Even the 2.7 out pulls the 5.slow by an embarrassing margin.
 
D

Deleted member 9101

Guest
Yep, it just sounds like POO

Co-worker of mine is always **************' about how his 3.5 sounds, especially when I drive my 6.2 to work :ROFLMAO:


Oh... Most definitely true....although I have trouble hearing V8s when they are behind me ;-)
 
D

Deleted member 9101

Guest
?‍♂️ When I punch the throttle it takes off like it was fired from the barrel of a howitzer. How it sounds is irrelevant to me.

Exactly! I'm just one "full boost launch" away from destroying a V8....haha.
 
D

Deleted member 9101

Guest
I certainly didn't buy my 6.2 to win races.

Its a damn truck afterall ?

But a 3.5 ecoboost, especially on tunes, can be very good times ?

The latest generation of tunes, one the dual injection motors, are down right nasty... Especially on E85.

My brother has a tuned 3.5 HO in his Limited and it's an absolute animal.
 

McCarthy

Is it riding season yet?
I guess i'm an old man at heart... I like a big noisy V8 (summer car is a 2019 Mustang GT that is... Shall we say delectably loud), but there is nothing worse than daily driving it. Love how quiet the eco is.
 
D

Deleted member 9101

Guest
I guess i'm an old man at heart... I like a big noisy V8 (summer car is a 2019 Mustang GT that is... Shall we say delectably loud), but there is nothing worse than daily driving it. Love how quiet the eco is.

Lol... I've gone from s straight piped 78 Vette when I was in my 20s to an EcoBoost with the stock catback in my 40s.

It's kinda fun having a stock sounding truck that's not stock :)
FB_IMG_1582164655965.jpg
 
Last edited by a moderator:

nickw

Adventurer
15 non-towing sounds low. I reset my 2nd trip meter after my last towing trip in October, and my overall MPG, non-towing, has been 18.2. That's AFTER I calibrated the on board computer (there are instructions on the F-150 forum on how to do that, it's pretty slick.)

Virtually all of my driving is urban/suburban (20 mile round trip commute to work) and I have been averaging right around 17 on Winter gas.

Towing MPG is the same or a tad lower than what I was getting in my '04 Suburban, 9 - 11 MPG when towing a high-profile travel trailer over an 11,000' pass.

The difference is that the Suburban made it to the top in 1st gear (literally, in 1st gear) with the engine screaming at 5,000+ RPM and going MAYBE 30 mph.

With the 3.5 EcoBoost I'm in the left lane, going 65+ trying to pass slower vehicles and the engine isn't even breaking a sweat.
That was my experience too, I got a loaner F150, King Ranch, 3.5EB (go figure) when my Ranger was getting a minor body repair, I hand calced MPG and was in the 17-19 range over a couple tanks, trip meter was 18-20, which is about right. Mixed driving.
 

TooSteep

Observer
Reviving an old thread, 'cause I'm currently on the same fence:

Looking at a truck to hold a permanent camper - have my eye on a flatbed with an Overland Explorer HBE - but not certain yet it will meet my winter needs. So truck would have a permanent 2200 lb dry weight with the tray

I'm in Canada, and considering two options:

1. Regular cab, 8' bed, 3.5l EcoBoost, HDPP, F150 XL ($52,264 CDN with taxes)
Heavy Duty Payload Package
3.73 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
Skid Plates

3035 lb payload per https://media.ford.com/content/dam/...2021/f150/pdfs/2021-F-150-Technical-Specs.pdf

2. Regular cab, 8' bed, 6.2l, F250 XL ($54,000 CDN with taxes) ($57,500 for Supercab with 6.5' box)
4.30 Electronic Locking Axle Ratio
240 Amp Alternator
Skid Plates

4260 lb payload

Prices are a wash. I am wondering how big the difference will be in fuel economy and in drive quality. With the permanent 2100 lb load, will there be a significant difference in mileage? The unloaded numbers put the F150 at 50% better mileage.

What about ride quality? Post-Covid, we will be putting many thousands of miles on it driving south to Arizona and Utah for fall and winter mountain biking. B.C. logging roads are littered with jagged rocks, so will also be adding sturdy tires.

It seems there are aftermarket kits from Carli for the F250 that improve ride quality, although I have no idea if they are appropriate for my intended usage. I have never owned a pickup truck before.

Any other insights into choosing one over the other would be appreciated. For 2021, In Canada at least, the F150 HDPP is available with 8' beds and the 3.5l EcoBoost.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
188,039
Messages
2,901,516
Members
229,352
Latest member
Baartmanusa
Top