Fire Pan for Restricted Areas. What do you use?
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ethernectar
Adventurer
Saw one of these at Overland West. Packs up very compact. Will probably pick one up for the next winter desert camping season.
http://www.mansfieldoutdoors.com/tent-stoves/open-fire/hekla-30-firebox/
http://www.mansfieldoutdoors.com/tent-stoves/open-fire/hekla-30-firebox/
Switch
Observer
I made this from the lid of a small galvanized garbage can. Originally posted here: http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/85545-Propane-Camp-Fire/page4
Later I shortened the length of the straight part by about 2/3. I also made one very similar using a 16" aluminum pizza pan.
What about one of these, or is it too small ?
http://www.madeinamericastore.com/the-all-american-grill-8912.html
I have seen these in person. They are super HD. Yes, they are expensive but will literally last forever. 1/8" 304 Stainless. Your children's children will be handing it down to their kids. I am gonna get one this summer at the County Fair. They usually have a good discount then ($25-$50 off).
http://www.madeinamericastore.com/the-all-american-grill-8912.html
I have seen these in person. They are super HD. Yes, they are expensive but will literally last forever. 1/8" 304 Stainless. Your children's children will be handing it down to their kids. I am gonna get one this summer at the County Fair. They usually have a good discount then ($25-$50 off).
Snow Peak fire pit. Large size. Hands down. Ive used the wash tubs and such. Takes up way to much space. The Snow Peak pit folds, has some great attachments and uses less wood. I usualy split store bought wood into smaller pieces. Good luck finding any left in the states, I must've got the last one. I did order the grill bridge and cooking grate from "Drifta" who is in Austrailia. He carries the whole line. I also bought the heavy duty canvas carry bag. The one that comes with it is kind of cheapy.
Honu
lost on the mainland
for those folks using galvanized ?
you never had a welding class I reckon !!!
or in the Fire Dept
google metal fume fever !
same thing when you ask BBQ folks about making a cooker out of galvanized material !!
as said if it was safe you would see BBQ companies making galvanized products that are part of the heated parts !!!
you can burn off the galvanized and or use chemicals to rid it which if you have not I would do that so its safe
you never had a welding class I reckon !!!
or in the Fire Dept
google metal fume fever !
same thing when you ask BBQ folks about making a cooker out of galvanized material !!
as said if it was safe you would see BBQ companies making galvanized products that are part of the heated parts !!!
you can burn off the galvanized and or use chemicals to rid it which if you have not I would do that so its safe
Herbie
Rendezvous Conspirator
Honu,
I had some initial concerns - and I certainly would never weld on galvanized metal, but I've yet to experience any problems with a few coals or a few sticks of firewood in a galvanized tub. In fact, when I first built my tripod firepot (galvanized 16" feed pan), I intended to burn off the coating and apply BBQ paint instead. The problem was that I couldn't get it hot enough to burn the coating.
I think the thing is that it doesn't actually get that hot. With a few coals for dutch oven cooking, my pan can even be touched on the sides with bare skin. With as big a fire as would be safe for the size of the container, it gets hot, but after a dozen+ burns, I see no change in the galvanizing coating, (unlike with the much higher heat of welding), so I'm thinking that in this application, the risk of gaseous ZnO is relatively small.
You're right of course, that for ultimate safety, one would need to acid-strip the galvanizing off and re-paint, but adding those nasty chemicals to the mix sort of defeats the purpose of using a $5 feed pan to keep the fire off the ground. If you have strong concerns, stick to using a small BBQ grill or the like...
I had some initial concerns - and I certainly would never weld on galvanized metal, but I've yet to experience any problems with a few coals or a few sticks of firewood in a galvanized tub. In fact, when I first built my tripod firepot (galvanized 16" feed pan), I intended to burn off the coating and apply BBQ paint instead. The problem was that I couldn't get it hot enough to burn the coating.
I think the thing is that it doesn't actually get that hot. With a few coals for dutch oven cooking, my pan can even be touched on the sides with bare skin. With as big a fire as would be safe for the size of the container, it gets hot, but after a dozen+ burns, I see no change in the galvanizing coating, (unlike with the much higher heat of welding), so I'm thinking that in this application, the risk of gaseous ZnO is relatively small.
You're right of course, that for ultimate safety, one would need to acid-strip the galvanizing off and re-paint, but adding those nasty chemicals to the mix sort of defeats the purpose of using a $5 feed pan to keep the fire off the ground. If you have strong concerns, stick to using a small BBQ grill or the like...
Nachos
New member
I lost my washing machine drum recently and an looking for a replacement. The drum was great but a pain to pack. I'm thinking of building something that collapses flat like:
http://www.ezyspit.com/product/fp600/
There are probably 10 companies in Australia making them, but have yet to find one in the US.
I'm thinking this with a tray under to catch any ash or coals. Looks much more compact and easy to flat pack assuming it does not warp. The other folding option is the snow peak, but once you load that out with the grill and base your at $300.
http://www.ezyspit.com/product/fp600/
There are probably 10 companies in Australia making them, but have yet to find one in the US.
I'm thinking this with a tray under to catch any ash or coals. Looks much more compact and easy to flat pack assuming it does not warp. The other folding option is the snow peak, but once you load that out with the grill and base your at $300.
huskyrunnr
New member
You can get stainless dog bowls for pretty cheap. You can also put legs on them with t nuts and carriage bolts. I've made woodstoves for use inside of tipis. I made them out of galvanized sheet and I went to great lengths to burn off the zinc with a torch and with regular stove burns. You can see where the stove is or is not seasoned. They never went inside a tipi until they were fully seasoned. All this from advice of previous stove builders.
20DYNAMITE07
Just along for the ride
This thing goes for $20 on Amazon... and it folds flat
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B001OC5...UTF8&colid=ESAZ2KFJWVEK&coliid=I2CYO6X8QHJ8GI
paranoid56
Adventurer
i have used one of the large home depot galvanized metal pans used for drinks at a party. drilled a bunch of holes in the bottom and use that. but recently picked up the snowpeak setup as it folds flat.
Robert Bills
Explorer
I've used a galvanized oil drain pan to contain charcoal briquettes for dutch oven cooking and small campfires, like this:
My improvised galvanized fire pan has never become hot enough to create a risk of exposure to zinc oxide fumes. While the risk of such exposure is a concern at welding temperatures, the risk is almost non-existent in stoves or fire pans. This post explains why not: http://donkey32.proboards.com/thread/373/afraid-galvanized-pipe-anyways
My improvised galvanized fire pan has never become hot enough to create a risk of exposure to zinc oxide fumes. While the risk of such exposure is a concern at welding temperatures, the risk is almost non-existent in stoves or fire pans. This post explains why not: http://donkey32.proboards.com/thread/373/afraid-galvanized-pipe-anyways
LocoCoyote
World Citizen
This thing rocks....
http://www.petromax-shop.de/petromax_de/grills/petromax-atago.html
Not the smallest, but not all that bad either.
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http://www.petromax-shop.de/petromax_de/grills/petromax-atago.html
Not the smallest, but not all that bad either.
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