FJ Cruiser: $22,000 msrp!

[Scott Brady]

I was just playing around on the FJ Cruiser page and ran the numbers.

You can get a manual V6 4wd FJCruiser for 22k MSRP. Give it a few months and you can get it for even less with dealer discounts. That is one hell of a bargain IMO. With AC and a radio too.

 

[Willman]

I was talking to the Toyota guy at the trail run last weekend....The one that i drove was $28,000 bills for the auto. The stick seems more inviting for the $$$$$$. Going to have to get the wife one!!!

 

[Nullifier]

Hell I would only get it in a stick anyway.

Mine comes up at $24,922 Option are passenger arm rest, interior lights, back up camera, and hitch. Although since the factory bumper would be gone soon after I got it I would probably for go the hitch and build a bumper with one built into it like the one on my taco. so that would be $400 less.

What is lame is that in order to get the Atrac upgrade wich has a few niceties in it you have to first spring 1800 for the convenience group so it's really 4K for the Atrac. All I want out if that is Tilt and Cruise. From what I understand the Atrac stuff is included and wired on all FJ trucks. All you really have to do is buy the switch for it and wire it up.

Oh and silver would be my color choice.

 

[kcowyo]

I was just playing around on the FJ Cruiser page and ran the numbers.

You can get a manual V6 4wd FJCruiser for 22k MSRP.

Not to be argumentative (and I know you're out on an adventure this weekend) but from what I'm hearing and seeing, albeit in a much smaller market, is that you can build one on Toyota's site for $22K, but good luck getting it from the dealer for that figure.

Just what I've been hearing from some folks in my neck of the woods.

 

[seth_js]

Not to be argumentative (and I know you're out on an adventure this weekend) but from what I'm hearing and seeing, albeit in a much smaller market, is that you can build one on Toyota's site for $22K, but good luck getting it from the dealer for that figure.

Just what I've been hearing from some folks in my neck of the woods.

You are completely correct sir... initially you were lucky if you were paying about $5000 above MSRP at the dealership. Now, the demand and novelty is going away so the prices are coming down. Although, I still don't think they are MSRP.

 

[azskyrider]

I was looking to buy one 2 months ago. They were asking $10K over MSRP. This month there are many asking MSRP in Phoenix. They are coming down as the months go by.

 

[Ric]

so if you build/buy one online via Toyota.com the dealer is still able to charge you more ?

 

[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

Dont pull the trigger yet!

Been serious talk in all of the mags that a convertible is in the works! Betcha all the folks that jumped on these right away will be a tad miffed when a convertible comes out in a year or 2! :ylsmoke:

 

[Grim Reaper]

My first encounter I am actually a little disappointed in them after sitting in a couple.

Monstrous blind spots and you sit low in it so visibility is not great for trail riding. The visibility out of my 1st gen 4Runner is one of the things I really love about it. I felt like I was back in my fullsize K5 when I sat in the FJ the first time.

I also thought I read the Manual was only available in full time 4wd.

If thats true That sucks for MPG having to spin all the drivetrain all the time. A part time with locking hubs at the wheels would be my preference. If you frag a CV you can run 2wd and unlock the hubs effectively bypassing anything drivtrain related in the front that may break. In a full time you are screwed. You will have to take parts off and still might have issues because I don't know if you can lock the center diff and run on the hwy that way.

One of my contractors has one. Need to take it for a ride one day and really see if my first impressions are warranted.

I also understand no E-Locker. I guess you can add it without much more hassle then the E-locker I am about to put in my 4Runner but it would be nice to have it as a factory offering.

Overall my feeling is Toyota asked us what we wanted. The exterior design team sot of got it right till they got to seating hight and visibility. The drivtrain team TOTALLY missed the mark. Those of us that actually wheel want locking hubs, part time cases and selectable lockers.....Hell I don't want ABS and thats forced on you.

If I could have it any way I wanted.

NO AIR BAGS.
NO ABS
NO TRACTION CONTROL
Locking hubs (no central disconnect, honest to god get out of the truck to lock in hubs)

Part time gear drive case with a 4:1 low range
6 speed with a 6:1 granny and a .75 over
4:88's (can you say 117:1 crawl ratio?)


Full floating rear axle like a FJ80
Selectable lockers front and rear.
The Rear camera is nice, how about some extra ports so you could add a camera or 4?

1500 watt inverter and a on board welder option with dual batteries and 150 amp alternator.

on board air
33's
Offer a winch bumper with a Warn HS9500i
A/C, power windows and locks.
interior night light (red like aircraft so as not to kill night vision)
GPS antenna on the roof or built in GPS that has update maps and will handle topo maps.
Snorkel and water proofing option (raised breathers pulling air from the air box, water proof ig, sealed and vented alternator, Water proof ECM and electronics.)

I figure loosing the "I cant drive and handle putting on my seat belt" options that won't handle being dunked would about wash the rest of the parts I would want and put it at $25k.

 

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Was this an Over Sell...!!!!...and which is better New FJ or Tacoma?

The other night.....

After hearing that my engine still sucks and is still not working properly!!!!!!!!!!

.....I stopped in my local north county san diego Toyota dealer.

I sat in the new FJ ....it's been a few months since I took ALL those pics.

I walked around the stealership for almost 30 min. before I was even greeted! (I was dressed in a t~shirt shorts and flip~flops!........yet I could pay CASH for whatever they had on their lot!....I learned years ago in the furniture business not to pre~judge a customer!).

I was sitting in a new black FJ when a guy came up to me and said hi. I promptly told him he was too late!....and that I had already been here 30 min. so he blew it!.............hehe .........I like to razz them!....:sombrero:

While sitting in the new FJ...........

I still had this feeling like the thing is just too HUGE! I felt like I was sitting inside a BIG EGG!....on wheels.

This guy who said hi finally told me sorry, he was short handed (two guys didn't show up...in typical so. ca. fashion!) and that he is the sales manager.

He proceeded to tell me that he knows ALL about off~roading because he has a 1979 FJ40.

Now here is my point.

He told me that the New FJ is now Toyota's MOST capable stock off~road product they have.

I asked what about the Tacoma.

He said......"oh no....the Tacoma is lighter in the back and is NOT as capable as the NEW FJ".

The way he was trying the "oversell" tactic...........I was beginning to feel like they are NOT selling as many New FJ's as they would like and that they are not as popular as we are all lead to believe.

Could this be true?

.......AND!

I would like ALL the TACOMA OWNERS to chime in and tell me why/or if it is true..... that the New FJ would be better off~road than your Tacoma.

I have never owned a Tacoma ......nor have I driven one off road.....so I really can't comment.

I just had this terrible feeling at the dealership that I was being feed a load of "Shitake Mushrooms"............!.......:littlefriend:

What do you think?


OH.........!!!!!!!!!!

...and I almost forgot the most important part of what he said!

I asked him about diesel engines in future Toyota trucks!

He told me that the 2008 Tundra will have a diesel engine.

 

[bigreen505]

Grim, good list, but I would like a diesel too.

SWR, from what I remember reading on mud a while ago, the few people who had spent some time with the FJ were extremely impressed with its off road capability, and they are a hard crowd to please. As for your take on overselling, my guess is that because of the limited production of the FJ Crusier, they can still sell them at or above MSRP so there is probably far more profit margin for the dealer in them, in terms of sales price vs. invoice, kickbacks and spiffs.

Honestly I don't doubt what the salesman said, but our definition of off road travel and capability is different that most (expedition travel vs. rock crawling). If you think the Tacoma is too light in the back, just add aux. fuel, water tank, tools, spares, rack, stove, shovel, hi-lift, etc., and you will probably be sitting at about a 40/60 weight distribution.

 

[Scenic WonderRunner]

Good points "bigreen505"..........!

......and it's not me that thinks Tacoma's are too light in the back.

They really need to be light in the back...........because they are ment to carry "Loads"........! So I agree with your points!

One thing in the sales managers favor!

He did LOVE the sound of my Very low mileage 4Runner and exclaimed how capable it is!............:sombrero::victory: :rockon:

 

[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

Personally, i think toyota completely dropped the ball by not offering it in a convertable version!

 

[RAM5500 CAMPERTHING]

I also understand no E-Locker. I guess you can add it without much more hassle then the E-locker I am about to put in my 4Runner but it would be nice to have it as a factory offering. .

The elocker is an option for the rear of the FJ Cruiser.

Personally, i think toyota completely dropped the ball by not offering it in a convertable version! I would consider buying one in a convertable version for sure!

Also, that roof rack is almost useless, the front half of it doesnt even have a floor so whatever you are putting in the rack will scratch the roof!

 

[calamaridog]

I must be Invisible!

OR.............

At Least Typing to myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:sombrero:

If I am going to continue to Type to myslef..........

I might as well keep my stories to MYSELF........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why in the world should I spend 15 min. typing my story.......

Only to be ignored.........and just be simply typing to myself!!!!!!!!!!

It's almost RUDE!~

You are not typing to yourself, but I'm not subscribed to this thread:shakin:

And it's ok to talk to yourself too:wings:

I believe the FJ Cruiser can have both TRAC and a rear locker, making it the most capable stock Toyota 4x4 available in the US market.

The looks of the vehicle are slowly growing on me, however, I would love to have 4 real doors. I have come to the conclusion I will not be buying one of these as it would not work for a family guy like me.

I would have considered a nice new Tacoma 4 door but it wasn't in the budget.

I have no expectation of quality service when I buy a car therefore I'm never disappointed or surprised. I like the Toyota product, not the Toyota dealers. Then again, I have had bad dealer experiences all over the place with Jeep, Ford, and Mercury too.