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spressomon

Expedition Leader
Another vote for SureFire LED. Its the one I always reach for...especially after one or more of the cheapy LED flashlights I bought (Costco), albeit for a fraction of the price, have failed me. Its been dropped, abused and used heavily for a variety of lighting tasks...but it works: Always.

Until someone makes the identical product, including its reliability, for less money, I can't say they are expensive. Not fitting my budget is another matter :coffeedrink:

Cry once.

I applied the same logic when I purchased my MP Superline XD winch line: No regrets!
 

MatthewThompson

Adventurer
The Surefire lights are awesome - and expensive. I'm like Silver Bullet, I use Mag lights. They're relatively cheap, come in all sizes, last forever even if abused, and are available everywhere. For the cost of one Surefire you could buy a 4 D cell, a AA mini, upgrade to the blue light if that's what you like (I don't-because as an ave. human, my eyesite is more centered in the yellow/green spectrum and I appreciate shadows - they give depth and shape to the form that's being lit). Oh, and you could buy a year's supply of batteries too!

I sent my 15 year old 3C Mag back to them with batteries that leaked so bad they were stuck in the chamber. I got a new one within 2 days, no shipping. Mag customer service is a bonus in addition to low buy-in.
 

Johnnie

Adventurer
I sent my 15 year old 3C Mag back to them with batteries that leaked so bad they were stuck in the chamber. I got a new one within 2 days, no shipping. Mag customer service is a bonus in addition to low buy-in.

Damn, I wish I would have known about this. Recently I threw away my 3 year old mag-lite cause the batteries were stuck inside from leaking.
 

Herbie

Rendezvous Conspirator
Damn, I wish I would have known about this. Recently I threw away my 3 year old mag-lite cause the batteries were stuck inside from leaking.

Mag lights are legendary in my family. In fact, it's the footnote to one of the greatest stories I can ever tell about my childhood:

When I was around 10 or 12 years old, my Dad took us on one of our usual desert camping trips for the 4th of July weekend. This was one of the big ones, we had the neighbors along, plus some of my extended step-family, if I recall correctly. When darkness on the 4th finally rolled around, the Dads (mine plus the neighbor) dragged all the kids out away from camp with the promise of a surprise. The moon was waxing, so we had to follow the adults out single file - a parade lead by my Dad and his four stick Mag. The surprise turned out to be a massive cardboard box filled with fireworks. This was a huge treat for us, not just because we were city kids, but because we were city kids from a state where fireworks weren't just illegal, but we deemed them as akin to nuclear munitions in terms of how much we were NOT supposed to have them.

Now, I may have impugned my father a bit, so I should say that while technically illegal, this was a relatively responsible bit of fireworksmanship. The area was purely sand desert, not even scrub brush, and only the adults were actually handling and lighting the pyrotechnics. The kids just stood back and egged them on. By now our eyes had adapted enough that the mag light went into the cardboard box, well away from the "launch pad", and the brief flashes of light from a bottle rocket or screamer were over bright.

We were about 15 minutes into our personal celebration when out came the mortars. They looked, to my pre-teen eyes, like cardboard ice cream scoops on top of cardboard ice cream cones. The first one popped straight up and wow'd us all with a longer-lasting color burst than we'd seen from any of the bottle rockets that had very quick pops. The second one must have misfired, or failed somehow. I'll never really know, but none of us will ever forget the sight of the mortar launching. Instead of shooting straight up, it spiraled off at what seemed to be an unnatural angle. It arced brilliantly and brightly, fortunately perpendicular to the assembled crowd of kids... only to land directly into the cardboard box filled with the remaining fireworks, some fifty paces away.

You know the sort of bittersweet thrill you get during the grand finale' of a normal fireworks show? Like, you're awed and happy to experience this incredible display of color, light, and noise, but at the same time sort of sad when you realize that this means the show is ending, too? Well imagine that feeling coupled with sheer terror as the now engulfed box of fireworks begins to detonate. Bottle rockets lit out at wild angles. Chinese cracklers hit their machinegun staccato. The last couple of mortars - miraculously well positioned within the box - launched upward as their manufacturer intended, and a myriad of other novelty pyrotechnics all began to cook off, many never leaving the confines of the increasingly fiery and noisy box.

I remember there were a few stunned moments where no one could believe what had just happened and we just watched, but the adults did recover first and began to usher the kids farther away. The "finale'" lasted several minutes and then the rhythm of the assault began to die down. Dad never did let any of us get too near the remains of the smoldering box, but I do seem to recall a cleanup effort, followed by my father, a bit chastened, ushering us off to bed.

The footnote to the story comes after we returned home. Apparently during the cleanup, my father had recovered the mag light from the ashes. The switch cover and housing had burned away, but the body was still intact. I wasn't there for the recovery, so I don't know if the batteries or bulb needed replacing, but I have a vivid memory of being back at home and being able to push my finger down into the switch hole and get the flashlight to turn on, momentarily.

I don't know if my father ever told the story, honestly, to Mag, or if he simply asked for a replacement switch assembly without getting into the details, but I do remember being simply amazed that a couple of weeks later the switch was replaced and that 4D Mag was back in service.
 

01tundra

Explorer
Well......thanks to this thread, I just ordered a 4Sevens Quark AA Tactical S2 Edition, (3) AW R14500 batteries, AW-139 charger, and car adapter..........just want to say thanks again for causing my wallet to shrink :)!

I'm expecting a deep discount next time I order a Master-Pull product to help offset this little purchase :)!!!!!!!!
 

tdesanto

Expedition Leader
Certainly Surefire makes excellent lights. I still carry my L2 Lumamax from time to time. Of all the lights I have, I still think the Surefire light is the most rugged.

But, lots of companies have been making serious progress in terms of brightness, light output quality, and lower price points than Surefire.

I also have a few Fenix lights. I really like their single CR123 battery flashlights with the Cree LED lamps. I like the fact that they're so compact and have variable output.

This year I purchased a couple Jet Beam flashlights. These, to me, are the best combination of price, durability, and functionality too.

May favorite light right now is the Jet Beam Jet-III M. This one seems almost as rugged as my Surefire, but surpasses it in terms of light output and it is variable from the minimum output of only 2 lumens (awesome for helping to preserve night vision) to the blinding 225 lumen output. You click the tailcap three times and then hold it until you get the output you want. Then it will remember that level until you wish to change it. Or, you can turn the bezel to leave it on the full 225 lumen output. This one is only around $85.

Fenix lights are great too, as I said already I own a couple, but you owe it to yourself to give Jet Beam a look too. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the build quality, features, and light output.
 

spressomon

Expedition Leader
Certainly Surefire makes excellent lights. I still carry my L2 Lumamax from time to time. Of all the lights I have, I still think the Surefire light is the most rugged.

But, lots of companies have been making serious progress in terms of brightness, light output quality, and lower price points than Surefire.

I also have a few Fenix lights. I really like their single CR123 battery flashlights with the Cree LED lamps. I like the fact that they're so compact and have variable output.

This year I purchased a couple Jet Beam flashlights. These, to me, are the best combination of price, durability, and functionality too.

May favorite light right now is the Jet Beam Jet-III M. This one seems almost as rugged as my Surefire, but surpasses it in terms of light output and it is variable from the minimum output of only 2 lumens (awesome for helping to preserve night vision) to the blinding 225 lumen output. You click the tailcap three times and then hold it until you get the output you want. Then it will remember that level until you wish to change it. Or, you can turn the bezel to leave it on the full 225 lumen output. This one is only around $85.

Fenix lights are great too, as I said already I own a couple, but you owe it to yourself to give Jet Beam a look too. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the build quality, features, and light output.

I like the specs on that Jet Beam Tony! If you say they are as reliable as a Surefire I just might have to try one. I didn't see it on their site but do you know if you can get a red filter cap for the Jet-IIIM?
 

Nonimouse

Cynical old bastard
Carry a Lenser T7 all the time. have a Lenser P6 in the truck along with an LED four colour Mil spec angle torch. Also got three LED head torches (one front, one under the 2nd row and one in the back - all water proof/rechargeable Clulites). last but not least is a 6 cell Mag copy in the front passenger footwell. Got two more of these at home - by the front door and by the bed; also got a Clulite by the front door.

http://www.cluson.co.uk/

http://www.ledlenser.com/?gclid=CL7VqvjU96QCFchH4wod5z1_fw
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Comparison video of my older 80 lumen Surefire Nitrolon G2 and the new 15/200 lumen G2X Pro that arrived yesterday.
The video could have been better, there was a lot of light from outdoor lighting, plus I should have shot it a little bit earlier when it was darker out, but I was chowing down on a great breakfast :D

I am very impressed with this new flashlight, or Illumination Tool as Surefire likes to refer their flashlights as.

I also ordered up a 12 pack of the [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00063SN6E/ref=oss_product"]123A batteries from Amazon[/ame] yesterday.
Ten year shelf life, and I have a few other items that also use the same batteries.
I know some buy a cheaper brand of 123A battery, but after reading some reviews online, some say the Surefire batteries work better and are worth a few extra bucks getting over other brands.

I would not hesitate to buy this flashlight again, I think it is that good.

Camera info and video mode is in the video description at the URL below.

http://vimeo.com/16342065



PS, I totally blame Overland Journal for the purchase of this new flashlight.
If I had not seen the ad in the latest issue, I may have not bought it :D
 
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7wt

Expedition Leader
Wow, that's a sizable difference. Thanks for doing the video. I have been needing a new light for some time now and was looking at The Sure Fire light but there is so many to choose from. Now I am set, off to REI.
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Wow, that's a sizable difference. Thanks for doing the video. I have been needing a new light for some time now and was looking at The Sure Fire light but there is so many to choose from. Now I am set, off to REI.
Did you pick one up today at REI?

I was just outside with mine and a neighbor was looking at it and was very impressed when I lit up a big tree all the way to the top across from us.
This little thing reminds me of those million candle power flashlights with the big lens on them.
Use to have one, but it crapped out several years ago.

I keep reading about cree also.
I am not sure if the bulb in these is a cree or not, or if it makes any difference.

I have a nice Black Diamond headlamp from REI which is dual purpose in that it has an LED in it and also a regular bulb, you can select which one you want, but the LED output is very low, not even as good as the low position on this new light I bought.
 

7wt

Expedition Leader
Did you pick one up today at REI?
No, honey do's popped up. Maybe tomorrow but Monday for sure. I just hope they have one. The REI up here is real small and they don't stock a lot of the cool stuff.
 

LACamper

Adventurer
Hard to go wrong with Surefire.
I used to spend a lot of time caving. I used princeton tec in wet caves. They are utterly waterproof. They are not indestructible though. Their hand lights and head lamps have interchangeable parts, btw.

I have a streamlight tlr-1 also. Its meant to be a gun light but works well for other things too. Bright, compact, and reliable. Again, not cheap.

Coast lights have a good reputation and are cheap (under $40).
 

tdesanto

Expedition Leader
I like the specs on that Jet Beam Tony! If you say they are as reliable as a Surefire I just might have to try one. I didn't see it on their site but do you know if you can get a red filter cap for the Jet-IIIM?

Dan, I'm not sure if a red filter cap is available. That would be a great addition though.
 

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