Fuel Economy???

mrblond

Observer
I have one of the 07 4 door Dodge CTD 4x4 lifted w/35's and my over head comp reads 19+ bit real world is more like 17.6 and this is about 50/50 hwy/city average.

I have done better on hwy of course but what I like is the over 600 mile range between fill ups and I have been told that the mpg might go up after break in.
 

Bella PSD

Explorer
mrblond said:
I have one of the 07 4 door Dodge CTD 4x4 lifted w/35's and my over head comp reads 19+ bit real world is more like 17.6 and this is about 50/50 hwy/city average.

I have done better on hwy of course but what I like is the over 600 mile range between fill ups and I have been told that the mpg might go up after break in.

mrblond,

Welcome to the Expo!!

My over head computer reads about .75-1 mpg high. The HP chip messes with it. The 600 mile range is nice when I am getting the 20 plus MPG, my tank holds about 33 stuffed to the top with diesel(short bed). I bet your MPG will go up as you get 50,000 on the clock. Thats when mine felt broken it.

Louie
 

mrblond

Observer
Bella PSD said:
mrblond,

Welcome to the Expo!!

My over head computer reads about .75-1 mpg high. The HP chip messes with it. The 600 mile range is nice when I am getting the 20 plus MPG, my tank holds about 33 stuffed to the top with diesel(short bed). I bet your MPG will go up as you get 50,000 on the clock. Thats when mine felt broken it.

Louie

Thanks man, I originally lost about 1.5mpg after I put on the 35" toyos, they almost did'nt roll down hill w/o help. I did re-cal the speedo. After about two tanks and switching to synthetic I seemed to get almost all the mpg loss back.

Anyway, not sure if the mpg gain was maybe the tires smoothed out or the syn motor oil, or both? I have a little over 20K miles.
 

02TahoeMD

Explorer
Something you may want to look into is finding someone that does dyno-tuning of your engine's PCM. I used a small company called Black Bear Tune in VA, who specializes in late-model GM engines. He adjusted for my Flowmasters, snorkel, my tires, and adjusted for my driving style, as he took a drive around town with me. He didnt charge me for updating once the snorkel and bigger tires were on it.

Anyway, paying him for the custom tune of my PCM was, I think, the best money I have spent on the engine / performance. It truly changed the performance of the truck, and even helped my fuel economy, which I can not complain about a 16 MPG average when I cruise at about 75 on the highway with frequent trips into 90 MPH + range for passing.
 

Guinness44

Adventurer
Our stock Cumins can get 20, but its more likely around 18. (we did up the tire one size, thats all). (Its an 02, quadcab, 4by, autotrans.)

DO NOT use tranny fluid in your diesel. There is plenty of lube additifs around. For sure read the label and DO NOT get any with alcohol.
 
Chas Stricker said:
Hey Charlie,
Don't you get about 20mpg with your Mog?
Chas

On a 26000 lb vehicle? I think my 9mpg is good. It doesn't affect my decision making on travel plans.
I've read stories of people getting 7-8 mpg with 6.4L Powerstrokes with big campers on F450s (no towing!), which to me is shocking for a 12-13000 lb vehicle. A DieselStop user said he spend $6000 on fuel on a 8500 mile trip to Alaska and back. Figure it out.

Charlie
 
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wild1

Adventurer
modular approach

I like the modular approach to fuel economy, I can use the one that best suits my needs and gets the highest mpg. The Superduty V-10 hauls the house and everything else and gets 10 miles to the gallon. The LJ is great for exploring and makes a great trailer that will go about anywhere and gets 17 miles to the gallon. The TW200 is the secret weapon, at 80 miles to the gallon it's hard to remember when you last put gas in it.
 

CapelConcepts

Observer
wild1 said:
I like the modular approach to fuel economy, I can use the one that best suits my needs and gets the highest mpg. The Superduty V-10 hauls the house and everything else and gets 10 miles to the gallon. The LJ is great for exploring and makes a great trailer that will go about anywhere and gets 17 miles to the gallon. The TW200 is the secret weapon, at 80 miles to the gallon it's hard to remember when you last put gas in it.

That is a great set up and an incredible pic to go with it! I like the "modular approach" you have there. I'm highly considering a BMW F800GS for some adventure rides...but they ONLY get 40-50 mpg, nowhere near your 80 mpg. ;) I think you're the first V-10 SD to chime in, how do you like it? If you're getting 10 mpg loaded I guess you aren't as far off the diesel numbers as I thought you'd be. We did some really cool supercharges for a company putting the V-10s into cop cars and running them on natural gas when I was at Magnuson. Unfortunately the conversion never took off. It was a neat set up though!

Guinness44, what's the reasoning behind not running ATF through a diesel?
 

wild1

Adventurer
modular approach

The GS is hands down a better primary expedition bike then the TW, sort of like the Superduty to the LJ, but you can't haul a GS on the hitch so I guess the TW is as good as it gets. I ran a 96 F-350 diesel for 100,000 miles over 8 years. About half of those were with a total weight within a thousand pounds of the Superduty. I loved the diesel when it was twenty cents less then regular and delivered about 14 miles to the gallon fully loaded or 19 empty.
With the current cost of diesel in the US I much prefer the V-10,it's quiet,clean, and gas is available anywhere. I have found the V-10 more then adequate for the things that I have used it for.
 

Bella PSD

Explorer
charlieaarons said:
On a 26000 lb vehicle? I think my 9mpg is good. It doesn't affect my decision making on travel plans.
I've read stories of people getting 7-8 mpg with 6.4L Powerstrokes with big campers on F450s (no towing!), which to me is shocking for a 12-13000 lb vehicle. A DieselStop user said he spend $6000 on fuel on a 8500 mile trip to Alaska and back. Figure it out.

Charlie

That same trip with my Ford 7.3L (10,500 lbs) would be about $2,355.00 in fuel. Maybe I should just go and do the trip to prove it!:beer: I did the math on the $6,000 bill and it adds up to 7-8 mpg if he spent around $4.85 per gallon. Thats just real bad, no getting around that. I would think that something could be done to improve the MPG on his 6.4L?? I'm very happy with my 7.3L and will hang on to it for a long time!

Louie
 

Chas Stricker

Adventurer
Howdy Charlie,
I got back from a trip to Montana with our travel trailer and got 10.5mpg. I only went 55-60mph and thought overall it was good. $1,500 for fuel was still a cheap vacation. I don't have the power you guys have though.
Chas
 

77blazerchalet

Former Chalet owner
Eeek. 31 gal tank for my Chalet with prices at $4/gal gives me the creeps. 1977 era 400 engine with a carb is 9-ish mpg? It's still not fully restored, so my vacation in the Ouray area last week is basically what I've done for the last 20 years, tent camping out of a nicely maneuverable hatchback that gets better than 32 mpg. My total gas bill was $164, but the car stayed basically parked four days.

Buying the Chalet two Marches ago didn't seem like a bad idea. However, I never have gotten used to the acres of Chevy hood out front, and gas prices won't retreat much. So I intend to sell it, and then come up with something with a shorter hood, more compact overall design, and newer engine (diesel/fuel injection) technology in order to aim for high teens or better mpg..... I mused about a 4x4 Westfalia-ized minivan in this thread, maybe a custom Westfalia-style roof on a smaller SUV instead.......
 

fisher205

Explorer
77blazerchalet, Do you know anybody that's put a Chalet on a diesel blazer? What fuel economy they got? That 6.2 has gotten a bad rap, but the guys I know that have set them up right are getting 22 to 24 in suburban's. I have been toying with this idea for a while.

I just got back from a 1700 mile road trip to Missoula and back with side trips to do a little fishing. My '94 Dodge 12V Cummins w?10' Alaskan Camper averaged about 14 mpg pulling a uhaul. Final tank was at a little over 15
( wind to the rear thru Wyoming). - Brad
 

West Coast Mags

Adventurer
I'm active on coloradok5.com and have read numerious accounts about folks with the M1009 CUCV Military blazers that keep them stock and but swap in a 700r4 over drive trans and set the tire diameter and gearing to equal 1900 rpm for whatever speed they typically drive and 28 seems to be the magic number. The military blazers were 15 more horsepower than the regular diesel blazers and that helps. They still sell regularly for $1000-2000 on the govt auction sites, but you have lots of paperwork, have a limited window when you can pick up the vehicle, can't work on it in the military lot, and never really know what you're getting into. In most parts of the country you can find folks that buy them as a hobby, have their own stock of spare parts, fix them up and make them driveable, then sell them for $2000-3000. That's the way to go, pay a little bit more but then know what your getting. Their on ebay and your local craigslist regularly, as I think more about this you can get running 6.2 diesels locally for $400 - $600 all the time, drop one of those in with the overdrive trans and mabye a modern transfer case out of a suburban into your blazer and enjoy. After having spent some time disassembling my chalet camper unit (now for sale as a whole or parts) I think it would be easier to buy a used diesel truck or suburban (diesel 2wd burbs are practially free) and swap the drive train in, rather than trying to transfer the camper to the other blazer. A few guys that know old chevy's could do the drivetrain swap in a weekend, or a week at most. As far as gas to diesel all you have to do is drop the tank, blow it and the lines out with compressed air, install a pair of inline fuel filters before the motor, and then about 3 wires and that's it. Since that body style of blazer had diesels in them you can buy motor mounts at any auto parts store and the transmissions bolt up the same, or just use them from the donor vehicle. Yeah, it would be pretty easy, I'd keep the chalet and do a diesel conversion, you could get it down for $1500-$2000 and though the camper is aerodynamically challenged could probably get in the low 20's easily instead of 9 with the gas motor.
 

77blazerchalet

Former Chalet owner
fisher205 said:
...you know anybody that's put a Chalet on a diesel blazer? What fuel economy they got?.. - Brad
Brad, at least two of the members of our Yahoo forum are right in the process of the transfer of the Chalet shells to newer same body style diesel Blazers, and a third guy started but gave up on the idea. Meanwhile the creator of the Yahoo forum Doug W is an advocate of the swap idea as "metapoint" describes and will probably do that with his Chalet. Wish I could tell you the mpg specifics, but no one that I know of has completed their projects yet.
 

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