Fuel Tanks and Jerry Cans relating to Fuel Range

Gravelette

Well-known member
If you can be a little patient I will be glad to share the information. Once I have the tank here and installed I will be doing an entire write-up on it. Just be aware that it will require a new fuel pump assembly and possibly a fuel filler neck and will be costing in the range of $2500-$3000 USD.
Any reason to not go ahead and share the source?
 

Jupiter58

Well-known member
If you are planning a trans Taiga trip, take extra fuel. You have 1 fuel stop and that’s it. My ram 1500 with a 33 gallon tank pulling a Patriot Campers X3 needed 15 extra gallons to do both the north and south ends of the Trans Taiga. Take the extra fuel. If you need it you have it. If you don’t need it, you have it to fill up back at home. But you have it, when you may need it.

So how many miles did you do, distance between gas stops and your mpg?


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Datsun Man2

Member
Any reason to not go ahead and share the source?
Perhaps things need to be verified on what all needs to be done? Perhaps I don't want certain individuals from a certain forum to know yet since all they do is talk **********? I'm already doing the foot work as we speak and once things are confirmed, thing will probably move forward for other, but others justifying the cost will be the issue especially with the lover Cheeto inspired tariffs in place.
 

yabodie

New member
So how many miles did you do, distance between gas stops and your mpg?


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The whole trip from the DC area up and back was about 4222 miles. On the Trans Taiga at 381km is Mirage. That is your only gas stop on the entire road. To the north end you go start to finish 666km, to the southern end you go almost 700km. One way. From Mirage I could have done either the north end or the south end, but not both on a single tank. I needed the 15 extra gallons in the Jerry cans to add the other end. MPG was in the toilet on the southern end due to the need to go slow due to the road condition so I was getting in the single digits. On the north end the MPG was in the low teens. Any other questions?
 

Datsun Man2

Member
Well if anything I can confirm I have the tank ordered. The rough timeline to have it here is early to mid December. After it's here the install will happen.
 

2.ooohhh

Active member
You don't even have to get very remote in parts of Canada to loose almost all choice on fuel source, Just popping up the Bruce Peninsula to visit family for Thanksgiving(early october) and a good number of stations are closing down for the season. Will be a completely different fuel landscape if we make the trip up for Christmas.
 

Datsun Man2

Member
You don't even have to get very remote in parts of Canada to loose almost all choice on fuel source, Just popping up the Bruce Peninsula to visit family for Thanksgiving(early october) and a good number of stations are closing down for the season. Will be a completely different fuel landscape if we make the trip up for Christmas.
Interesting to know. I wasn't aware that many were link that up there, but then again the US probably has more than the usual 24 gas(separate of the convenience store) due to ready technicians just in case
 

SnowedIn

Observer
I'm going to give a contrarian view to what others are saying... I've never felt the need for even a jerry can, and my range has always been <300 miles. It's never been an issue. Mostly western US, but also Baja and southern CA. If you are in Australia or plan to explore N CA, or someplace else in the world, your needs might be very different.

Gas is heavy, so I don't understand the "you can never have too much" refrain, especially with a payload challenged rig. There are 1,000,000 other things with far worse consequences than running out of gas that can go wrong in the back country. At any rate, I've never run out.


Find a good site that is unpopular and park it for as long as you want! Technically 2 weeks is the limit on NF and BLM before you have to move some distance, but you'll probably be needing supplies then anyway.

Another lens to look at this through is the point that every vehicle should have at least one fuel can. Running out of gas on a regular long trip can leave you in a place you really should not be lingering in with a disabled vehicle. Running out of gas in the back country can cause severe inconvenience on account of climate.

Even a sedan that never leaves pavement should have a can in the trunk. It's part of the basic equipment that should live on/in a vehicle. Now, in the sedan example, you don't drive around carrying fuel in it; the point is to have one so you (or more likely, someone else you are lending a hand to) doesn't have to gamble on finding one at an open gas station store and pay through the nose for it.

If I don't need the extra range I will typically bring an empty steel can on my rack in its purpose built carrier - big difference in driving down the highway with fuel and bouncing on a trail - but there is a balance between being sure you won't need the range, and being sure you won't get bogged down somewhere and burn extra gas. You have to weigh what happens if you guess wrong.
 

rruff

Explorer
Running out of gas in the back country can cause severe inconvenience on account of climate.
I don't explore and camp in severe climates, but if you do this, that would be a consideration.
You have to weigh what happens if you guess wrong.
I just never have in several thousands of days doing this, and if I did get bogged down for some reason and needed help, then I'd find help. For me it seems like running out of fuel is very far down the list of potential crises. Many varieties of mechanical failures are more likely.

I had a fuel pump die when I was in the mountains north of Flagstaff and I walked out to the "road" and flagged down a nice person who towed me back to town (grocery store parking lot) with a rope. The next day after walking to parts stores and getting what I needed, some drunken Indians happened by and helped me drain the tank. I gave them enough money for a couple bottles of tequila, and we were all happy. That's the only time I didn't deal with a situation by myself. YMMV.
 

SnowedIn

Observer
I think the climate thing is the kicker; even if we're planning on avoiding rougher terrain, we are out in extreme heat or cold more often than not. Plus if you have kids they can struggle more with some of the extremes.

If walking for gas isn't a problem an empty $15 fuel can, super siphon, and a few nitrile gloves in a bag will have you covered
 

Datsun Man2

Member
I think the climate thing is the kicker; even if we're planning on avoiding rougher terrain, we are out in extreme heat or cold more often than not. Plus if you have kids they can struggle more with some of the extremes.

If walking for gas isn't a problem an empty $15 fuel can, super siphon, and a few nitrile gloves in a bag will have you covered
One who is hitting the trails will have something better than a $15 fuel container. Chances are they will spend a bit more on something that is actually going to hold up to abuse and probably have it filled before a trip starts so they can guarantee a longer trip without having to get more fuel.
 

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