FYI- BAJA NORTE VIOLENCE.
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Mickey Bitsko
Adventurer
Maybe we should tell someone, Dea, LE, HS, they'd probably like to know. \s on
rruff
Explorer
I prefer the east side in winter... but there was definitely drug trafficking going on there way back in the 90s, when I was camped on the east side of the Bahia Concepcion. This was according to the "bored teenagers with machine guns" (Federales). I guess that is further south, Hwy 1.
I doubt any area is "excluded" unless the cartels have an arrangement with local authorities that gives them a free pass in one area and not another. Which is certainly possible...
LexusAllTerrain
Expedition Leader
But I thought it was North Korea....But wait a minute guys! We all do have "COOL" I phones because of our relationship with China!
FrenchieXJ
Member
I am late to the party! It is nice that people are not going to be crowding the places, I go in Mexico, Baja and Mainland.
I think much of what Greg has said here is what I have said for years. Buy a box of common sense and bring it with you will help.
I have been down to Copper Canyon and Baja many times since I left the forum., in the last 2+ years. If you know how to act and use common sense you will be fine. Going with a person who knows the area and has a cool head will make you feel more relaxed.
Frenchie
I think much of what Greg has said here is what I have said for years. Buy a box of common sense and bring it with you will help.
I have been down to Copper Canyon and Baja many times since I left the forum., in the last 2+ years. If you know how to act and use common sense you will be fine. Going with a person who knows the area and has a cool head will make you feel more relaxed.
Frenchie
LexusAllTerrain
Expedition Leader
You have been to Copper Canyon SOLO?
FrenchieXJ
Member
Yes 4 trips solo (*1) and to 8 or 9 with one other vehicle with friends. In the last 40 years I have made around 100 trips total. When I was working I would do trips at least 5 trips per year. I had 1-12 day trip, 2-14 day trips, 1-15 day trip and 1-18 day trip.
My solo trips were for a specific purpose. I would do what I needed to do and go home.
I was going through my filling cabinet a couple of months ago and found my list for the full year. I do not remember if I kept it or tossed it out. It was at least 12 years old. It had everything for the whole year. The classes, Baja adventures , Mainland adventures and U.S. adventures
I would do some back to back trips. I would say good by to one group then with a day rest I would pick up the next group and go back down.
I have some stories that I may post up about the Copper Canyon trips.
(*1) = 1 vehicle With 2 time with only me and 2 times with a passenger riding in my vehicle.
Frenchie
FrenchieXJ
Member
I did some checking and I found some hard copies of some years; 1999 (4), 2003 (5), 2004 (6), 2005 (6), 2007 (5) and 2008 (6). I was very surprised I had any still in the filing cabinet, I thought I cleaned most of it out when we moved. I know that I had to keep some of these for 7 years for tax reasons.
I also had the Expedition de Mexico which was a 21 days that included Copper Canyon. That was once a year.
As with all of my adventures when I would add a new trip or make major change, I would scout it out. When I had what I thought was a finished product. I would invite friends to go with me and critique my presentation and the whole adventure . They would fill out the questioners daily and then at the end a overall thoughts.. I would see what I need to change or adjust. This was before taking paid clients on the adventures. These and my personal trips were not on the calendars.
Back in the working days crossing the border was a breeze. I had my Mexican insurance for the year. I had my FM-3 Work Permit (This is in place of the Tourist Permit) and with the FM-3, I got my TIP for 365 days. The first trip with the new FM-3, I would have to check in get it stamped and get the TIP.
Frenchie
I also had the Expedition de Mexico which was a 21 days that included Copper Canyon. That was once a year.
As with all of my adventures when I would add a new trip or make major change, I would scout it out. When I had what I thought was a finished product. I would invite friends to go with me and critique my presentation and the whole adventure . They would fill out the questioners daily and then at the end a overall thoughts.. I would see what I need to change or adjust. This was before taking paid clients on the adventures. These and my personal trips were not on the calendars.
Back in the working days crossing the border was a breeze. I had my Mexican insurance for the year. I had my FM-3 Work Permit (This is in place of the Tourist Permit) and with the FM-3, I got my TIP for 365 days. The first trip with the new FM-3, I would have to check in get it stamped and get the TIP.
Frenchie