GFC vs. Vagabond

kalieaire

Observer
I think it comes down to climate and type of trails you run. Seems like the Go Fast Camper (GFC) is best suited for warmer climates and running trails fast. The GFC is a very sturdy and simple design with a high level of attention paid to the details and options. I could see me ripping off gas struts regularly though with the GFC exposed design. The Vagabond Outdoors Drifter (VOD) while having very similar features to the GFC would be easier to insulate and with its internal gas struts it lends better to tight trails & northern climates in my opinion. VOD also has a large powered fan which is awesome to have if you need to cook in your shell or need to dry it out from condensation on those cooler winter nights. Neither appear to have roof lock outs or options for attaching fuel carriers to the rear of the shell like the Alu-Cab which in my opinion is a must have if you don't want to run a swing out tire/fuel can carrier. Personally I'm leaning toward the VOD at this time....just wish there was space to mount a fuel can on each side of the rear doors.

Vagabond does have lock latches. Just throw two pad locks, one on either side. As for fuel carriers on the shell itself, that seems kinda sketchy to have weight so high and off to one side. But basically since it's a blank slate, just like the GFC, what a lot of people are doing is mounting rotopax on the sides panels using aluminum aircraft L-Track.

The design is similar enough to the habitat that a lot of similar mods can be done.

Check out "exorcists" build here:

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/at-habitat-pictures-ideas-aaand-bs.532519/page-13#post-17579809

two roto packs on the driver side and an ugly ass PVC pipe water container on the passenger. 1525386186989.png

There's still a silver bullet for some company to load...

Silver, do you mean aluminum?

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spressomon

Expedition Leader
Reply to my "silver bullet" comment:

Its only relative to my needs and wants :D

A few features...

Full size (6.5' bed, LBZ)
Barn doors with integrated flip up shelves. This also, if engineered & fabbed correctly, provides full door to frame seal. I have yet to find a topper with the 1/2 style flip up hatch over that effectively seals for dust and even water intrusion using OEM tailgate
Insulated (I've IR'd the inside roof of my buddy's steel Caravan topper at 150F...which is one of the advantages of 'glass and one of the disadvantages of metal)
Side window options (I like the full access side doors on the GFC but do wonder if the bulb seal overlap from flat door to round tube is adequate for western state's dust...)
Paint to match
I don't really want the roof panel to be translucent (I think the GFC is?)
I do like the longer and slightly taller (accommodate 4" mattress?) tent housing portion of the Drifter. I have found in my advanced age :D 4" mattress height to be ideal...

Its great to finally see development in this arena though!
 

Ovis Canis

Observer
Full length hatch or ambulance door/s would be ideal. You can have my tailgate if you build one of these.

I like aspects of both.
GFC
250 lbs
Longer sleep area with two additional cusions at the foot.
Less obtrusive clams hold camper to bed. I plan on sealing and building out the interior.
Mounting location for 270 awning.

Vagabond
No frame work to work around for side door box to be intalled.
Easier to insulate.
Shell latches help to compress seals when closing.
Access window to the cab.
Vertical rear wall equals a little more space on the interior.
 
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PHeller

Adventurer
I like GFC's pricing, but wish the offered a high-top model with a longer cab-over model. I also think the market differentiation here isn't focus on the right stuff. I think there is a demand for more hardsided pop-ups, and it seems that no-one is trying to supply that.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
I like GFC's pricing, but wish the offered a high-top model with a longer cab-over model. I also think the market differentiation here isn't focus on the right stuff. I think there is a demand for more hardsided pop-ups, and it seems that no-one is trying to supply that.

Hard side would be great. All of these designs are great...but still glorified tents. I do most of camping during the shoulder months...weather is unpredictable and usually cold at night. Which is when you want to be the most comfortable. Love my Wildernest, but isn't the greatest in the cold, wet, and wind.

Have seen a couple hard sided from do it yourselfers...and that is about it. Think I need to learn how to weld aluminum and build my own.

http://www.doityourselfrv.com/adventure-truck-diy/

adventuretruck-topper.jpg
 

PHeller

Adventurer
Even better would be a perpendicular clamshell. The tallest point would be in the middle of the truck bed, but even if you slept "head forward" you'd still be able to sit upright in camper.
 

Motafinga

Adventurer
Hard side would be great. All of these designs are great...but still glorified tents. I do most of camping during the shoulder months...weather is unpredictable and usually cold at night. Which is when you want to be the most comfortable. Love my Wildernest, but isn't the greatest in the cold, wet, and wind.

Have seen a couple hard sided from do it yourselfers...and that is about it. Think I need to learn how to weld aluminum and build my own.

http://www.doityourselfrv.com/adventure-truck-diy/

adventuretruck-topper.jpg
This has got to be the coolest light weight hard-sided pop-up design I've seen bar none! If I were to go into business this is what I would be building
 

Clutch

<---Pass
This has got to be the coolest light weight hard-sided pop-up design I've seen bar none! If I were to go into business this is what I would be building

While this is a slide-in.

Some good ideas.

http://www.casa-trotter.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7838

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My favorite design is probably is the Quick Up camper, since it looks like plain topper when closed, but very spacious when opened. Unfortunately never went into production.

http://www.quickupcamper.com/opening.html

Quickup-Camper-folded-down.jpg


kwikup.jpg
 
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danneskjold

Active member
Full disclosure, I purchased a Vagabond and I have had their first model on my truck for 3 weeks (as a loaner). I paid full price for mine, and they have not asked me to write this or given me any feedback on it - nor is this sanctioned by them. 100% my own opinion.

With the recent price increase for the GFC to $5750 I don't think there's any reason to get it over the Vagabond. I'm sure some people will take offense to that, and that's fine. Lots of peoples identities seemed to be wrapped up in what camper they paid a lot of money for. We can all have our opinions, and ultimately I can say if the GFC came to market 6 months ago I would have happily paid their asking price and been thrilled with it. It's a giant leap forward from anything else on the market previously. I've stated before that I think the coolest part about both of these coming to market is seeing how people build theres out - hopefully Habitat, GFC and Vagabond owners can all come together on this and sing kumbayah and build dope glamping setups.

That being said I think the GFC is more of a RTT on a shell while the Vagabond is a true camper, so one isn't necessarily going to work better for everyone.

I think there are two downsides to the Vagabond over the GFC:
Weight - 100ish lbs difference between the two. Once you start loading it up I think that number will be pretty negligible - an ARB fridge weighs more than 50 lbs, my dog weighs 60, 12 gallons of water weighs 100ish, etc.
Price - $750 more, but I think it's a better value.
Extrusion on side of GFC - neat to attach accessories easily, but you can just drill in the Vagabond which I plan on doing. But then you have a hole.

The biggest problems I see with the GFC:
Side tent windows - They are too small, and their placement towards the cab (where your feet will be) is truly odd. Additionally, the Vagabond uses a three layer window (mesh, clear vinyl, tent material) which is awesome and offers a lot more flexibility.
Transform-a-floor - I think the theory behind it is cool, but I think it's needlessly complicated. In their video they show the "full bed" configuration where the pillows are all stashed over the cab and makes the space unusable. I don't think the Vagabond marketing has properly illustrated how they do their floor, but it's essentially two panels that can slide under eachother. The mattress is two mattresses that are velcrod together that creates a hinge and allows them to be folded over on top of eachother. In this configuration there is still enough room to have a fully open bed, yet still be able to put a dog there and other items while you work in the bed. I have done this several times in inclement weather and it's absolutely clutch. The other key point is that it does not look like you will be able to sleep two reasonably sized adults side by side and still have access to the bed - which you can do easily with the Vagabond.
Exposed struts - seems like they are in danger of getting ripped off or damaged in tight trails (like those in Western WA). I will say that being attached to the extrusion makes replacing them easy I bet.
Translucent ceiling - I've heard a ton of reasons for this and none of them make any sense. If I want light in the camper I will create it, otherwise I don't want to be woken up by the sun - if I did I would set an alarm or open my windows. One of the things I loved about my Alu-Cab was how dark it got inside when you wanted it too.
No rear window as standard
Water sealing - it doesn't look like the front of the camper (near the cab) has done anything to seal up the gaps in the Tacoma bed. Speaking from experience with other metal camper shells (Alu-Cab) you need to do something about those gaps or a surprising amount of water will get in. I've seen reports from people who live in SoCal about how waterproof it is...lol.


Advantages of the Vagabond:
Simple, more effective floor/sleeping area that is also larger and more flexible - you can sleep two adults side by side, yet still get in/out of camper or work on a laptop below.
Integrated electronics features - the Vagabond interior has ways to (by design) route power cables throughout while keeping them secure (through special zip ties) and hidden. Very cool! Additionally, they have panels you can purchase that you can attach light switches, fuse boxes, etc. to in a way that makes it clean and like it came from the factory like that.
Large side windows that are positioned so you can see out of them
Triple layered side windows - No window, mesh, clear vinyl, tent material (privacy screen) offer more flexibility. The clear vinyl is really nice and allows you to still see outside and take advantage of natural light during a rain storm.
Larger sleeping/living area - you can have two adults sleeping side by side and still work on a computer below.
Lockable tent area - side doors will lock on the GFC but not being able to lock the actual tent seems like an interesting oversight.
Large rear window comes standard - seriously, this window is gigantic AND it comes already tinted. Additionally the cab-facing window flips down for ease of cleaning or sticking long objects through the cab.
Waterproofing - the Vagabond comes standard with a weather sealing strip that goes over the bed where it meets the cab (where there are giant holes in the Tacoma bed) while my Alu-Cab did not and leaked profusely through there. Additionally, the tent material is some maritime vinyl material that is 1000% waterproof and is awesome. I have driven through several major rain storms, and camped in the rain and not a drop of water has gotten inside. As a side note, I've ruined a CVT tent because the nylon got wet and moldy - I'm not saying it wouldn't happen with this but the material is absolutely more resistant to that and is in fact waterproof.
They made the original wedge camper for Tacomas - I'm not saying the GFC is a copy of it the Vagabond, but the Vagabond guys made the first one and I like to support small businesses whenever possible.

I'm sure I've forgotten some stuff but would rather put this out now than stew on it for a week to add another line.
Flame away ;)
 

inv3ctiv3

Adventurer
Full disclosure, I purchased a Vagabond and I have had their first model on my truck for 3 weeks (as a loaner). I paid full price for mine, and they have not asked me to write this or given me any feedback on it - nor is this sanctioned by them. 100% my own opinion.

With the recent price increase for the GFC to $5750 I don't think there's any reason to get it over the Vagabond. I'm sure some people will take offense to that, and that's fine. Lots of peoples identities seemed to be wrapped up in what camper they paid a lot of money for. We can all have our opinions, and ultimately I can say if the GFC came to market 6 months ago I would have happily paid their asking price and been thrilled with it. It's a giant leap forward from anything else on the market previously. I've stated before that I think the coolest part about both of these coming to market is seeing how people build theres out - hopefully Habitat, GFC and Vagabond owners can all come together on this and sing kumbayah and build dope glamping setups.

That being said I think the GFC is more of a RTT on a shell while the Vagabond is a true camper, so one isn't necessarily going to work better for everyone.

I think there are two downsides to the Vagabond over the GFC:
Weight - 100ish lbs difference between the two. Once you start loading it up I think that number will be pretty negligible - an ARB fridge weighs more than 50 lbs, my dog weighs 60, 12 gallons of water weighs 100ish, etc.
Price - $750 more, but I think it's a better value.
Extrusion on side of GFC - neat to attach accessories easily, but you can just drill in the Vagabond which I plan on doing. But then you have a hole.

The biggest problems I see with the GFC:
Side tent windows - They are too small, and their placement towards the cab (where your feet will be) is truly odd. Additionally, the Vagabond uses a three layer window (mesh, clear vinyl, tent material) which is awesome and offers a lot more flexibility.
Transform-a-floor - I think the theory behind it is cool, but I think it's needlessly complicated. In their video they show the "full bed" configuration where the pillows are all stashed over the cab and makes the space unusable. I don't think the Vagabond marketing has properly illustrated how they do their floor, but it's essentially two panels that can slide under eachother. The mattress is two mattresses that are velcrod together that creates a hinge and allows them to be folded over on top of eachother. In this configuration there is still enough room to have a fully open bed, yet still be able to put a dog there and other items while you work in the bed. I have done this several times in inclement weather and it's absolutely clutch. The other key point is that it does not look like you will be able to sleep two reasonably sized adults side by side and still have access to the bed - which you can do easily with the Vagabond.
Exposed struts - seems like they are in danger of getting ripped off or damaged in tight trails (like those in Western WA). I will say that being attached to the extrusion makes replacing them easy I bet.
Translucent ceiling - I've heard a ton of reasons for this and none of them make any sense. If I want light in the camper I will create it, otherwise I don't want to be woken up by the sun - if I did I would set an alarm or open my windows. One of the things I loved about my Alu-Cab was how dark it got inside when you wanted it too.
No rear window as standard
Water sealing - it doesn't look like the front of the camper (near the cab) has done anything to seal up the gaps in the Tacoma bed. Speaking from experience with other metal camper shells (Alu-Cab) you need to do something about those gaps or a surprising amount of water will get in. I've seen reports from people who live in SoCal about how waterproof it is...lol.


Advantages of the Vagabond:
Simple, more effective floor/sleeping area that is also larger and more flexible - you can sleep two adults side by side, yet still get in/out of camper or work on a laptop below.
Integrated electronics features - the Vagabond interior has ways to (by design) route power cables throughout while keeping them secure (through special zip ties) and hidden. Very cool! Additionally, they have panels you can purchase that you can attach light switches, fuse boxes, etc. to in a way that makes it clean and like it came from the factory like that.
Large side windows that are positioned so you can see out of them
Triple layered side windows - No window, mesh, clear vinyl, tent material (privacy screen) offer more flexibility. The clear vinyl is really nice and allows you to still see outside and take advantage of natural light during a rain storm.
Larger sleeping/living area - you can have two adults sleeping side by side and still work on a computer below.
Lockable tent area - side doors will lock on the GFC but not being able to lock the actual tent seems like an interesting oversight.
Large rear window comes standard - seriously, this window is gigantic AND it comes already tinted. Additionally the cab-facing window flips down for ease of cleaning or sticking long objects through the cab.
Waterproofing - the Vagabond comes standard with a weather sealing strip that goes over the bed where it meets the cab (where there are giant holes in the Tacoma bed) while my Alu-Cab did not and leaked profusely through there. Additionally, the tent material is some maritime vinyl material that is 1000% waterproof and is awesome. I have driven through several major rain storms, and camped in the rain and not a drop of water has gotten inside. As a side note, I've ruined a CVT tent because the nylon got wet and moldy - I'm not saying it wouldn't happen with this but the material is absolutely more resistant to that and is in fact waterproof.
They made the original wedge camper for Tacomas - I'm not saying the GFC is a copy of it the Vagabond, but the Vagabond guys made the first one and I like to support small businesses whenever possible.

I'm sure I've forgotten some stuff but would rather put this out now than stew on it for a week to add another line.
Flame away ;)

This is coming from a person who's never been in a GFC so take it with a grain of salt.

If you can go out and see all the campers and make your decision but the GFC is completely sealed from water along the bed with a dual bulb seal and the entire camper is sealed.
 

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