Good Luck Trying to Trade In Your ‘22-23 Tundra ☹️

[AbleGuy]

Truck dealers don’t seem to want to take recent Tundras for trades on new rigs, allegedly mainly because there seems to be no fix on the horizon for the ‘grenading’ V-6 engines…

It’s not clear how big a problem this is, but maybe it’s something to key an eye on for some of you guys?

Dealers Are Refusing Toyota Tundra Trade-Ins Over Engine Recall

No dealership wants a twin-turbo V6 Toyota Tundra or Lexus LX600 because of an engine recall with no fix

jalopnik.com

“We found out why Toyota’s twin-turbo V6s have been grenadeing themselves in 2022-2023 Tundras and Lexus LXs earlier this month, but there’s still no real fix for the issue. Now it seems car dealers are staying away from the once bullet-proof trucks.

A number of against-their-will Tundra owners spoke out about the fact car dealerships around the country are saying no thank you to owners who want to trade in their time-bomb trucks. Pickup Truck and SUV Talk spoke with an owner who tried to dump his Tundra for a 2024 GMC Sierra AT4X, but the dealer – Castle Automotive in McHenry, Illinois – turned down the deal.”

 

[jchasse]

I still won't be surprised if this spills over to the Sequoia and the new GX550. There's speculation that since it's technically a safety recall, it doesn't apply to the hybrid versions of the V35A (presumably because the battery will allow you to drive to safety when the engine assplodes), but I'm pretty sure they all have the same v6 TT engine with the same main bearings.

 

[beef tits]

I mean, if you're trading in a 1-2 year old vehicle I don't feel bad for you...

 

[AbleGuy]

I get what you’re saying in general.

But in these cases? If you’re trading it in because you have no confidence in its reliability, feel you got suckered when you bought it…and have been told no fix is forthcoming, yeah, I would feel sorry for you.

That scenario truly sucks!

 

[bkg]

I get what you’re saying in general.

But in these cases? If you’re trading it in because you have no confidence in its reliability, feel you got suckered when you bought it…and have been told no fix is forthcoming, yeah, I would feel sorry for you.

That scenario truly sucks!

This.

 

[rruff]

Truck dealers don’t seem to want to take recent Tundras for trades on new rigs, allegedly mainly because there seems to be no fix on the horizon for the ‘grenading’ V-6 engines…

Sad for sure! Toyota is going to lose a ton of $$$ on this (and the owners as well). And their rep is in the toilet.

A modest update of the 5.7L would have been much cheaper and much better received.

 

[chet6.7]

Truck dealers don’t seem to want to take recent Tundras for trades on new rigs, allegedly mainly because there seems to be no fix on the horizon for the ‘grenading’ V-6 engines…

It’s not clear how big a problem this is, but maybe it’s something to key an eye on for some of you guys?

Dealers Are Refusing Toyota Tundra Trade-Ins Over Engine Recall

No dealership wants a twin-turbo V6 Toyota Tundra or Lexus LX600 because of an engine recall with no fix

jalopnik.com

“We found out why Toyota’s twin-turbo V6s have been grenadeing themselves in 2022-2023 Tundras and Lexus LXs earlier this month, but there’s still no real fix for the issue. Now it seems car dealers are staying away from the once bullet-proof trucks.

A number of against-their-will Tundra owners spoke out about the fact car dealerships around the country are saying no thank you to owners who want to trade in their time-bomb trucks. Pickup Truck and SUV Talk spoke with an owner who tried to dump his Tundra for a 2024 GMC Sierra AT4X, but the dealer – Castle Automotive in McHenry, Illinois – turned down the deal.”

Hang it on a crane by the stealership with lemon signs.

 

[beef tits]

I get what you’re saying in general.

But in these cases? If you’re trading it in because you have no confidence in its reliability, feel you got suckered when you bought it…and have been told no fix is forthcoming, yeah, I would feel sorry for you.

That scenario truly sucks!

Seems it’s more internet hype than anything.

Toyota will fix them all in the end, unlike the big 3 who really leave people hanging.

And no I don’t feel bad for owners who had to have the latest greatest thing. It’s just a recall, there aren’t broken down Tundras lining the highways across the US…

 

[Furaites]

Lol....classify this as Toyota Legendary Reliability....

 

[bkg]

Seems it’s more internet hype than anything.

Toyota will fix them all in the end, unlike the big 3 who really leave people hanging.

And no I don’t feel bad for owners who had to have the latest greatest thing. It’s just a recall, there aren’t broken down Tundras lining the highways across the US…

Sounds like you’re not actually following this situation at all….

And take the “Toyota will fix” blinders off… that is a toyota of a different generation.

 

[jchasse]

Seems it’s more internet hype than anything.

Toyota will fix them all in the end, unlike the big 3 who really leave people hanging.

And no I don’t feel bad for owners who had to have the latest greatest thing. It’s just a recall, there aren’t broken down Tundras lining the highways across the US…

Brilliant post. Thanks for the contribution.

 

[rruff]

Seems it’s more internet hype than anything.

It may be effecting a small % now, but with the official cause being "metal filings left in the engine", that's going to effect longevity in a big way.

Toyota has recalled 102,000 vehicles. They haven't said exactly what they are going to do, but a full engine replacement is the only fix that makes sense. That's a lot of work and time and $$$. And I'd want to wait awhile if I owned one so the mechanics can get a bit of practice before they do mine.

It's very understandable that the trade in value would plummet. Nobody wants to buy an almost new vehicle and have it out of commission for a month or two for a recall.

Yes, most domestic manufactures would just fix the problem on the assembly line, and prior owners would be out of luck.

 

[dstefan]

This came out prior to the recall. Around the 12 min mark (edit 12:50) he gets into the bearing issue with some feedback from a Toyota (edit: Lexus) mechanic who had already been tearing engines (edit: the same engines as the new turbo Tundra V6) apart for crankshaft and bearing replacement.

Seems like the “fix” is close to a rebuild. I’m wondering if Toyota is foot dragging to gain time to gear up (and source parts) to be able to handle a relatively onerous fix on their part?

 

[rruff]

I’m wondering if Toyota is foot dragging to gain time to gear up

I'd be surprised if they were in a big hurry to spend a bunch of money... Replacing all these engines would sure keep the engine plant busy. Or if they just do an overhaul, that will keep the mechanics even busier. There is a general slowdown in auto sales... I think... plus these in particular. Maybe they are waiting for the economic crash we all know is coming...

 

[lucilius]

I've not seen a description of what is different about the hybrid variation and why they aren't having problems, perhaps they are manufactured differently and/or separately?
I will wait a few years to get a newly designed vehicle&engine and a big fan of the early adopters who bravely buy these things and help figure out all the problems. Toyota will likely make things right but might have rough seas ahead amid economy/auto market drama.