Graffiti Mars Lava River Cave Near Flagstaff

crawler#976

Expedition Leader
Hate to see that, but I'm not surprised.

Last time we stopped at the hole, there were dogs, babies, groups with only one flashlight for 8 or more people, and a bus from a local school full of 6 to 10 year olds with no supervision.

Perhaps one of the local Flagstaff crew can organize a cleanup like we're doing for Smiley Rock. The Prescott NF was very responsive to the offer for help.
 

Fireman78

Expedition Leader
The Forest Service needs to do a "Sting" Operation, complete with night vision cameras, federal agents, and handcuffs. (And maybe a beatdown or two). These places are out national treasures and I wouldn't mind my tax dollars going to fund catching these scumbags.
 

Dave Bennett

Adventurist
The Forest Service needs to do a "Sting" Operation, complete with night vision cameras, federal agents, and handcuffs. (And maybe a beatdown or two). These places are out national treasures and I wouldn't mind my tax dollars going to fund catching these scumbags.

x2
 

mrchips

Adventurer
Never understood why they glorify this by calling it "GRAFFITI" and the people who do this artists.

Call it what it really is "Vandalism" and vandals doing the deed.
 

brngk

Observer
Getting any money to protect caves is pretty tough. Fortunately for us, the nice folks at NAG and CAG have done a bang up job cleaning it up at least once a year.
 

dwh

Tail-End Charlie
I don't even care if it's a historical site or a national treasure or what...

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I just **********' HATE it. I live in Los Angeles and I see this crud everywhere, every day. Graffiti, tagging, vandalism...call it what you will, it's ugly, scummy, trashy, filth.

In L.A., it used to be, you could go into a gas station and use the restroom, but not any more. They'll tell you it doesn't work, or that it's only for employees. They've had to repaint and repair the restrooms so many times, that now you can't find a gas station in this city that'll let you use the restroom.

To me, the whole thing indicates a serious decline in civilization. Vegas is civilized. You can find a 24 hour gas station anywhere, and every single one of them has restrooms you can use. But not here. Not anymore.

The local Jack in the Box has an electric button buzzer to open the door to the restroom. You have to ask and let them eyeball you before they'll open the door. The local library's restroom walls are covered. Lately, they've installed locks and you have to ask the librarian for the key. They repaint the library restroom and THE NEXT DAY that **** is back again.

They've cut back the hours that the libraries are open to save money. Maybe they wouldn't have had to cut back as much if they hadn't had to spend so much money repainting the restrooms on a weekly basis.

(What I really don't get, is these morons who carve their tags into the toilet seat.)

Hey, when a baby draws on the walls with crayons, what the hell, it's a baby - go for it kid. But taggers - LOCK AND LOAD!
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