Group Flip Pac Camper Rain Fly Buy

[dcabcody]

I like the forest green idea. I too am more likely to be freezing in snow or rain. The sun hitting it in the morning would also heat up the flippac quicker.

Pretty flexable overall. Looking forward to the pics...

 

[thebrassnuckles]

I think white would be good... but other than that i'll take green.

I have yet to use my fp, but when I sleep in a regular tent, if I dont wake before the sun comes up I will darn near sweat do death... maybe not in sub +30 degree weather, but I rarely camp in that weather (although I love it) and when it rains it is generally above 32 degrees..

i am still undecided on what color to pait my rig, I am thinking OD green or desert tan.. but I sure do like white...

 

[billy bee]

We have to keep to one color to start. That will allow the guys at SLO Sail to buy one roll of cloth and keep the costs down. Martyn suggested gray. I'd be fine with that.

Thanks to you all for your insights. I know we will create a great alternative to FRP if we keep contributing.

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[thebrassnuckles]

We have to keep to one color to start. That will allow the guys at SLO Sail to buy one roll of cloth and keep the costs down. Martyn suggested gray. I'd be fine with that.

Thanks to you all for your insights. I know we will create a great alternative to FRP if we keep contributing.

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gray is good with me.

 

[billy bee]

Some new info on the water tightness of the fabric where it touches the tent: The trade off is weight vs. water-proof-ness. The heavier fabrics will have a heavier backing and, hence, be more water tight. The PVC-backed fabric specs I scanned is a good example of a heavier, more water-tight fabric. The coating is 30 mil (honestly, i don't really know what that means) and is heavier than most fly material and would be pretty watertight...

Anyway, just wanted to share what Karl (at SLO Sail) had to say about that...

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[gwwing]

White or gray will work for me. Of course I have a white truck. My plan would be to add a camouflage design to the fly with spray on fabric paint. Hard to get even close to stealthy with a white truck and blue tarp. I have used the spray on fabric paint on a couple of camping items and it worked fine.

 

[billy bee]

White or gray will work for me. Of course I have a white truck. My plan would be to add a camouflage design to the fly with spray on fabric paint. Hard to get even close to stealthy with a white truck and blue tarp. I have used the spray on fabric paint on a couple of camping items and it worked fine.

I saw a camo cloth in Karl's rack. Not sure what it was. I'll ask him. May not be any good for a rain fly...

In general, I am not interested in a camo fly. Cool that you can paint one up just the way you want it.

BTW, I am wasting hours of productive work time in thinking, talking, and posting about rain flies. It'll be a late work day for me...

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[Roaming Robertsons]

I am moving forward to get pricing for the 5 guys who raised their hands. So, there is no commitment. But I am doing this b/c the FRP design is a proven one...and it sucks. To quote another ExPo'er, "It is like wrapping your FP in a cocoon." No ventilation and no visibility. My goal (as I said up front) is to get a better, affordable product faster. SLO Sail should be able to pump them out in about two to three weeks. Prototype should be ready in a week. Pictures and prices to follow... That's when they will take orders.

This material is similar to other fly material. Any fly might do that. Having an air gap is best, of course.

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The FRP one seems to be proven to stay on and repel rain from what I've read. I've also heard those other things as well so you're right, it's a give and take. Our storms, when they happen in the desert, tend to have a lot of wind associated with them along with the rain so my priorities would be in that direction. I won't need it often but when I do, if it isn't secure, it won't provide much protection as it flies across the desert. It sounds like your design if superior in many ways, including the grommets that would allow for lashing it to the truck, tree, ground, or just wrapping it with a bungee, rope, or strap. I believe the current FRP stays on well but would love to hear from a real owner. As far as colors, I'm still fine with the green but gray is okay as well. Black would show dirt just as much as white for me at least.

 

[homemade]

flippac window screens zippered?

On the flippac do the window screens have a zipper so they can be opened or are they fixed?

 

[Roaming Robertsons]

On the flippac do the window screens have a zipper so they can be opened or are they fixed?

No, they are fixed.

 

[Dave Bennett]

The FRP rain cover does very well in high desert winds - so well that I laid awake half the night sure that it would rip off any second when in fact it was as secure as could be. Next time I wont worry at all. Howling winds with 30-40mph gusts are no problem for the FRP design.

 

[ETAV8R]

Hey fellow flippacr's!
I just got back from Montana De Oro for one night and then driving through the Carrizo Plain National Monument. We were a slight bit concerned about potential weather as the past month has been quite wet here in socal. I was in a campground with a two Airstream owners and several tenters. A few people came by to inquire and I got a lot of interested looks from people driving by.

Oh yeah...colors and such...
Gray is good, green would work with me but any color is gonna get dusty/dirty when exposed to certain desert environments. Since I have a dark gray vehicle something which stands out is ok with me as a source to be spotted if need be. I don't think pure white or black would be that great. I'd take black over white due to the hope of some sort of heat production. The only times it will be used is in inclement weather so that would black would be better than white.

Gray or khacki/tan gets my vote. Looking forward to it!!!

 

[billy bee]

Hey fellow flippacr's!
I just got back from Montana De Oro for one night and then driving through the Carrizo Plain National Monument. We were a slight bit concerned about potential weather as the past month has been quite wet here in socal. I was in a campground with a two Airstream owners and several tenters. A few people came by to inquire and I got a lot of interested looks from people driving by.

You were in my back yard...

Gray, or "silver" as it is called on the swatch sheet, looks like an agreeable color to everybody. Like I mentioned, the first one will be in burgundy, b/c that's what's available on the rack at SLO Sails. We are going to try that out on a few FPs here in SLO County for fit and pictures; then we'll discuss price, take orders, get fabric, and produce the rest.

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[Dave Bennett]

A note on FP sizes

I've seen it posted here and elsewhere that "all flippacs have the same size bed, are all the same size"....

Not true, and this may affect rain fly's. I was at FRP and asked if all beds were the same, Suntinez pointed out how large her FP was compared to mine (8ft bed Tundra) and that the lengths of all FP beds are the same, but there are two widths made. Seems that would mean two sizes of covers, not sure.

Just FYI

 

[Roaming Robertsons]

I've seen it posted here and elsewhere that "all flippacs have the same size bed, are all the same size"....

Not true, and this may affect rain fly's. I was at FRP and asked if all beds were the same, Suntinez pointed out how large her FP was compared to mine (8ft bed Tundra) and that the lengths of all FP beds are the same, but there are two widths made. Seems that would mean two sizes of covers, not sure.

Just FYI

I think all the tents are the same size. It's been a five years since I ordered mine. It was the first for a Titan but I seem the remember them saying some to the effect that the tents were all the same but the shells were designed for each truck. How does your fly connect to your Flippac and stay on so well? In my discussions with FRP about getting a fly, they have never asked me what truck I have.