Help me fill my Overland Travel tool kit.

taylorRichie

Adventurer
@TangoBlue - I think that's a good topic to debate...

I was recently reading a debate on winches, one person was talking about getting a cheaper Harbor Freight winch, and a 3 year warranty for substantially cheaper than a high end winch. The argument against this logic was, if it fails when you need it most, was it worth skimping?

Could tools be the same way? I have had several low end ratchets fail on me, a few higher end gear wrenches fail, only have broken harbor freight sockets, and had several other sockets chrome flake off, become sharp, and cause injury. But I've never had a box wrench break on me.

I was leaning toward a kobalt mechanics set on this kit, since Kobalt (as I understand it) is made side by side by the same company who makes craftsman tools. I was thinking Channel Lock Brand on most of the other components. (Made in USA) however it disappoints me that Channel Lock doesn't offer a lifetime guarantee, and all of the other peer brands do: Irwin, Kobalt, Crescent.

I guess another important factor is where you can get replacements. Another positive about Kobalt, is that lowes is treating the kobalt brand like sears treats craftsman. You walk in show them the broken tool, they replace it. No mail in, no waiting etc.

I'm also considering going to the local pawn shops, they tend to have a lot of high quality mis matched tools. Sometimes I think I get a little too OCD about having wrenches and sockets all match, at the end of the day it shouldn't matter, and if I can get High Quality tools on the cheap with a little bit of legwork, why not?

Stopped at lowes on the way home from work today, it was very tempting to get a Task Force full set and call it good, but couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger. I'd rather be patient.

Regarding theft, or 'accidental' swiping that's a good point. I did have an action packer full of tools taken out of the back of my truck 10 years ago. $200+ worth of goodies in one easy swipe. Was in a remote area, only saw a few vehicles in 24 hours, left the truck for a few hours... gone. :( Of course the tools weren't the only thing missing. My battery, my sunroof, my headlights, my tires... Not fun.
 

TangoBlue

American Adventurist
That is a good topic for debate... and I reference my earlier statement about risk assumption. A winch is an excellent example - I sport a WARN because it's my experience that it gets used a lot (on the US East Coast) and therefore I'm more certain that it won't fail in comparison to other, lesser known brand models. Someone once observed, "spend your money wisely once;" a winch is an item I don't consider to be "consumable," since it can be rebuilt, unlike a hand tool.

And then there is risk mitigation.

I know others who are less diligent about vehicle prep before a trip or too willing to take the hardest line and really do need to be conscious of bringing every possible tool, on-board welder, or trail spare. I'm a firm believer in thorough preventive maintenance at home in the garage and careful route selection vice a trail repair at 01:00 in the mud during a driving rain. Guess I'm just a big sissy that way and too old to be lying under a truck making repairs and swatting insects.

Your thoughts about selecting "mid-grade," good warranty or pawn shop-priced quality tools are excellent alternatives.
 

Yudda

Adventurer
Thanks for the link....

I've been debating the same questions and I am going to buy a simple USA made Craftsman set.
http://www.amazon.com/Craftsman-Mechanics-Molded-Carry-33200/dp/B0049UNLR6
Fill in the missing sockets with craftsman. Channel lock for the pliers and wrenches.

Then on the few "good to have tools"....I'll probably harbor freight it.


All placed in tool rolls and then in a 1500 yellow Pelican.

Electrical: little ziplock type bags inside a first aid roll up bag.

Blackhawk: http://www.amazon.com/BlackHawk-20E...1802&sr=8-1&keywords=Blackhawk+roll+first+aid

Countycomms version: cheaper quality and price.
http://www.countycomm.com/roll.html

Detailed vid of the bag I found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBj97WoN9U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
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off-roader

Expedition Leader
I'm not a pro mechanic but I did sleep at a holiday inn express last night...:ylsmoke:

Seriously though... I used to use Craftsman on the trail but found on our trips that many newbies don't bring tools so many of us end up loaning our tools to them... Which leads to tools being mixed up and ultimately lost. After "loosing" nearly a dozen sockets and a 3/8" drive I decided to switch to HF tools instead for trail use.

In terms of my tool box, the hard case may work for you as it does many others but I found hard cases take take up way too much room. Instead I use two 18x8x8 canvas bags to hold them (full tool set).

HTH.
 

taylorRichie

Adventurer
@Yudda:

I think these tool, and wrench rolls are higher quality and cheaper price... much cheaper.
Bucket Boss Wrench Roll

Bucket Boss Tool Roll

I think I'm going to throw a cheap HF Tool kit in, and slowly replace its components with Garage/Yard Sale and Pawn shop finds.

I will however get high quality Pliers, channel locks, etc. From the git. I figure if a socket or driver breaks, worse case scenario, I can use my high(er) quality Channel Locks, or other backup adjustable tool.

@Off-Roader... Holiday Inn Express :xxrotflma

I used to use tool bags... I found for me personally I had a harder time keeping them organized. I like a hard plastic weatherproof box with bags in side for organization. I think this is just a personal preference issue. In my garage I ditch all of the stupid plastic boxes power tools come in, and throw them in canvas bags, or loose in the drawer.

@Tango
I couldn't agree more... Pre trip prep definitely makes the most sense. My problem is I'm too new to the scene to know what my pre flight checklist should consist of.
As far as Spending your money wisely once... This is definitely something I try to live by. I have spent far too much money over the years on second rate camping equipment, and yard equipment. I'd rather use a kitchen spoon to dig a hole while saving money, than buy another cheap shovel.

Thanks again everyone!
 

Yudda

Adventurer
TR: I think you misunderstood ... The tool roll I linked to was for all the electrical tools and supplies...connectors, wire etc. See through large pouches to hold all the little ziplock bags. I can instantly find the correct connector or fuse....and no rattling.

I already own two of the bucket boss rolls and the're great ! Highly recommended.

But yes I'm set on tools wrapped in fabric and protected in a case..

Safe and quiet.

Also after a bunch of reading and search... I'm going to purchase the HF impact sockets to beat on. That with the craftsman socket set should cover what I need.

How about other supplies ?

Sealants, glue, thread locker, carb cleaner etc.....


What do you all carry?
 

taylorRichie

Adventurer
Ahhh... Thanks for clarification Yudda...

Those look great for that purpose... I wondering if Eagle Creek, or other travel brands have a good organizer for toiletries that would work well.

I know RTV is a must have, but I also would like to know what other fluids people bring. PB Blaster seems like a good one to have on hand as well.

Thanks!
 

Metcalf

Expedition Leader
I have a mid sized tool bag for my Willys, nothing fancy. If it doesn't fit in the tool bag I generally don't take it. I try and limit myself on the volume of space for tools....this in turn helps me manage weight to a certain degree. I find it WAY too easy for most people when they have a vehicle to overload it.....WAY too easy.

I'm lucky that I built the entire vehicle from scratch basically so I know just about every nut and bolt on the vehicle. I try and limit the amount of extra tools I carry just because 'something' might happen.

A few universal tools goes a long ways....

-vise grips can be used as plyers, wire cutters, to crimp electrical connectors, to clamp off a brake line or fuel line, etc.
-A screwdriver can be used as a screwdriver, prybar, pick, punch, etc.
-A hammer can help fix just about anything with the proper application of rage :)

I also carry a few things that most people generally don't....

-A pair of cheap calipers. Its really nice to be able to measure critical things in order to help cross reference replacement parts, make parts, etc.
-A decent set of files. A flat file is nice for making something flat :), triangular file for cleaning up splines, a round file for make holes larger, etc.
-small multimeter. Great for diagnosing a lot of electrical issues....like charging issues, sensor issues, etc.

When presented with an new issues generally you will find a way around it with what you have on hand. It is very rare that I have become totally stranded without any home because of a mechanical breakdown. Knock on wood....

There are some vehicles that you just need to carry spare parts for, or should. My old F150 ALWAYS had a spare ignition module in the glove box.....

I don't see any problem with HF tools for a vehicle kit. When you have to weld a few end wrenches to a broken suspension or steering link you will be a lot less mad!
 

Ray Hyland

Expedition Leader
Funny, I am the other way to most it seems. I have one small set of decent tools. They stay with me in the truck so I always have them with me, at home or on the trail.

I have some bigger or rarely used stuff at home, but most of what I need is with me.

Then again, I spend most of my time away from home.
 

taylorRichie

Adventurer
@Ray

I think I could get away with a solution like yours... I tend to have my nice tools in my garage, a full cabinet. But I don't spend a lot of time wrenching. I have many other hobbies, collecting tools seems to be one of them :D I don't know why I feel like I need one of everything, must be the equivalent to a girl collecting shoes...

SAE Gear Wrench, SAE Gear Wrench Half Moon, SAE Gear Wrench Cross, SAE Gear Wrench Short
Metric Gear Wrench, Metric Gear Wrench Half Moon, metric Gear Wrench Cross, metric Gear Wrench Short

just a snippet of redundancy. Of course all collected slowly over time. I by no means have the means to stock a garage in one go.

Another thing I'm interested in, which may not be appropriate for this thread, is how everyone has their home boxes/rollaways/cabinets organized. Since I have a desk job, and don't wrench nearly as much as a mechanic, I'm sure my cabinet isn't organized in the most efficient or effective manner.
 

off-roader

Expedition Leader
@Yudda:
@Off-Roader... Holiday Inn Express :xxrotflma
I used to use tool bags... I found for me personally I had a harder time keeping them organized. I like a hard plastic weatherproof box with bags in side for organization. I think this is just a personal preference issue. In my garage I ditch all of the stupid plastic boxes power tools come in, and throw them in canvas bags, or loose in the drawer.

I used to have a problem with that but I cured it by using a 4 pack of canvas 12x6 zippered pouches I got at HD. I keep open/closed end wrenches in one, pliers in another, screw drivers in another, and misc. in the other. I also have a HF tool wrap (yup the cheap one) that I use for misc tools. They all go into the two 18x6x6 black canvas bag along with other bigger tools. I have to dig up a pic of the tools so you get a visual. Works very well for me and I can find any tool I need in seconds w/out much searching and since the bags are soft sided, they don't take up any room that's not needed unlike hard sided tool boxes.
 

Snake CZ

Observer
the most important equipment in every car is:

duct tape
ducttape.jpeg

and I don't know how it is called in english, but we call it strapping tape or cable ties

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and off course some MacGyver knife :smiley_drive:
 

taylorRichie

Adventurer
Zip Ties the common name in US/English.

Duct Tape for certain... Bailing wire as well. Giving my toolbox a try this weekend. (well hopefully I'm not, but I'll be bringing it) :D

All of my stuff came, those who haven't used those flexi-silicone socket holders... They ROCK! Wow... they hold your sockets FIRM, I've never felt so organized...
 

Stumpalump

Expedition Leader
Also after a bunch of reading and search... I'm going to purchase the HF impact sockets to beat on. That with the craftsman socket set should cover what I need.

How about other supplies ?

Sealants, glue, thread locker, carb cleaner etc.....


What do you all carry?

Some Harbor Freight tools are not made in China. They are from other Asian country's and are quite good. As with any Harbor fright product, a good inspection for quality defects is mandatory.

"Other supply's ?". Glass cleaner in aerosol. I can wash the windows with muddy water and clean them with my hand but if grease, oil or the stuff they spray on the roads in Colorado gets on the glass it's nice to have an agent that will cut it. I don't use it often but it's made scenic trips a lot more scenic. Starting day two with clean glass is a blessing all day. Break cleaner comes before it. I clean anything mechanicle with it before I disturb it to keep dirt out. Break cleaner is a dream when working on nasty stuff. I have enough problems when broken down than to deal with mud,oil and grease. Cleaning it with a shot of break cleaner is so helpfully especially if you are trying to get silicone or epoxy to stick. I don't leave home without it.

Epoxy, RTV silicone, electrical tape... I should make a boring list just to force an inventory but things that have saved the day more than once is my junk nut and bolt bag. It's packed with diligence. These are the pieces that I have needed over the years to give an idea: Steering box bolts, track bar bolts, cotter keys, sheet metal screws, u joint straps and the special bolts they use, rubber vac and gas line, radiator and gas line hose clamps, radiator and gas caps, safety wire, short section of chain, washers/ spacers to make things fit and a hacksaw to trim down long bolts. Spare carb linkage parts or anything special to your rig can be used or fabbed into a part on the trail. Differential cover bolts, tail light bulbs. Basically any thing I ever fix I make sure I can attempt the repair in the bush. Even eye glass repair tools. Small punches, files and blades to alter things in my junk bag allow me to fab a lot of stuff.
 

AA1PR

Disabled Explorer
I guess I go to the extreme:
6 drawer craftsmen tool chest loaded as normal liek everyone else
Sockets up to 36mm (axles nuts etc), misc wrenches up to 1.25"
breaker bar & pipe for extension/leverage ( didnt see it mentioned anywhere)
allen wrenches & torx bits ( didnt see it mentioned anywhere)
brake tools & spring compressor
hand cleaner & shop towels for afterwards
1/4 socket set & 1/4 rachet too
& my impact absorbing snapon hammer 32 ounces or so for those stubborn ones...
I also try to keep my impact sockets in my vehicle tool box when I can, never know when murphy will make his presence
 
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