Hikers self defense

[2025 deleted member]

I hope I didn't sound like I was smarting off, it was not my intent. For me personally I would feel better carrying a weapon even if there was almost no possibility of getting a shot off.

Scott, if you read the case studies, you'll find that not one of those nine people would have had a chance to use a firearm. As I mentioned, I carry a firearm when I'm hiking, but it's not for defense from cougars, because I know I won't need it. I think Vicreo started the thread because he genuinely wanted useful information, so I feel that pointing out simple statistics is useful. I do the same when threads go on and on about the best ammunition for "defense" against rattlesnakes.

Polar bears - now that's a different subject.

 

[Jonathan Hanson]

I hope I didn't sound like I was smarting off, it was not my intent. For me personally I would feel better carrying a weapon even if there was almost no possibility of getting a shot off.

Not at all! I was just pointing out that there seem to be two distinct types of cougar encounters - the very few fatal attacks tend to be swift and decisive, with no time for the victim to react; most other encounters involve a young, inexperienced lion easily scared off without the need to shoot it (although that will probably be its fate anyway).

We don't expect trouble with drug smugglers when we hike near our house either, but as you said, being prepared is better.

 

[Vicreo A Legarreta]

Hi guy's well after talking to my wife, I got her to agree to order some stuff, like G fresh suggested, the order for a ruger 10/22 takedown alloy steel, http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Takedown/models.html

what I like is that can be put in a back pack for transportation, and can take to the places ware I now will not needed for big cats, only for coyotes that is nice.

now for cat's, thank's sccany, pull the trigger on the mossber 500 turkey with standard trigger, 12 gauge, 20" vented barrel, 36.5 overall length, mossy oak, yea yea yea way mossy oak, so I can register more easily for hunting turkey :sombrero:, http://www.mossberg.com/product/shotguns-pump-action-500-turkey/55116

but the wife insited that I order this http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Survival-Navigation/Outdoor-Safety-Survival%7C/pc/104791680/c/104774580/sc/104479380/UDAP-18-CP-Super-Magnum-Bear-Spray-with-Chest-Holster/742070.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fhunting-survival-navigation-outdoor-safety-survival%2F_%2FN-1100149%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104479380%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd741992%253Bcat104774580&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd741992%3Bcat104774580%3Bcat104479380
that she will be more happy if I use this.

Order from cabelas this sling for the shoot gun http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Hunting-Accessories/Gun-Slings%7C/pc/104791680/c/104734980/sc/104579280/Spec-Ops174-Padded-Patrol-Sling/1318783.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fhunting-hunting-accessories-gun-slings%2F_%2FN-1100129%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104579280%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd741992%253Bcat104791680%253Bcat104734980%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNP%26recordsPerPage%3D62%26WTz_srn%3DSeeAllItems&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd741992%3Bcat104791680%3Bcat104734980%3Bcat104579280
any experience with this sling.

Order 2 of this http://www.cabelas.com/product/Hunting/Hunting-Accessories/Cases-Holders%7C/pc/104791680/c/104734980/sc/104187780/Cabelas-10-Shotgun-Shell-Holder/742112.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fhunting-hunting-accessories-cases-holders%2F_%2FN-1100131%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104187780%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd741992%253Bcat104791680%253Bcat104734980&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd741992%3Bcat104791680%3Bcat104734980%3Bcat104187780

so what type of ammo will recommande me for the shotgun, what type of slug's that my wife can buy in walmart, she now which one for the .22 but not for 12,

so it will take 3 to 4 weeks for all the paperwork in the u.s.a and another 2 or more weeks to importem, and 1 week more to register them.

So Again thank's to all for the excellent advice and recommendations.:REOutShootinghunter

 

[Vicreo A Legarreta]

O I forget to mention that the only gun that I can use is the .22 long barrel revolver

 

[k9lestat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-hyIo90fc

CHECK THIS RIFLE OUT maybe what you looking for.

 

[k9lestat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nji73gcn6Y

 

[k9lestat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIWciS1fSZo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtPiAF0vx44


357 0r 45

 

[2025 deleted member]

Good luck with your choices, and we hope you never have to use them!

 

[robert]

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so what type of ammo will recommande me for the shotgun, what type of slug's that my wife can buy in walmart, she now which one for the .22 but not for 12,

Cats are thin skinned- any buckshot should do the trick. If that were all I was worried about I'd want something with a higher pellet count like #2,3 or even 4 buck. For deer, pigs or social work any of the 0, 00, or 000 buck will work fine.

 

[Cody1771]

what about a mossberg 500 JIC? small, compact, and has a SS model

 

[Vicreo A Legarreta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-hyIo90fc
The problem is the caliber, and to be onest I prefer the shoot gun, I now how to use a firearm and rifle since I was a young, a wonde animals is more dangerous ( is what my grandfather told me) I have a 22/225 for more 15 year and only used for 1 deer some jabalí, with the shoot gun I will feel more comfortable.

CHECK THIS RIFLE OUT maybe what you looking for.

Good luck with your choices, and we hope you never have to use them!

Thanks Scott and I hope not get there

Cats are thin skinned- any buckshot should do the trick. If that were all I was worried about I'd want something with a higher pellet count like #2,3 or even 4 buck. For deer, pigs or social work any of the 0, 00, or 000 buck will work fine.

Robert thanks, I am going to order some #4 for more coverage

what about a mossberg 500 JIC? small, compact, and has a SS model

I considered that one too but is only for police officer :banghead: again rules and more rules some time is so frustrating here.



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[Vicreo A Legarreta]

3 months ago, my son looking for a jabalí, and yes I driving

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[robert]

Dude- looks like you might have a ninja problem. Watch your back. :snorkel:

 

[Vicreo A Legarreta]

Dude- looks like you might have a ninja problem. Watch your back. :snorkel:

Hahaha I told my son and started laughing

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[BigSwede]

As many have suggested, you would have to have cat-like reflexes (pun intended) to draw down on a puma before it is on you.

Therefore, I suggest a hiking staff, solid wood, that can be used as a club and parry device. You might be able to keep it away from you until it gets discouraged. And a subcompact 9mm in case you do have a shot, but is small and light enough to hike with.