Hiking Boot Recomendations

upcruiser

Perpetual Transient
I really wish I had more selection to try on here locally. Some of the Merril, Asolo, Garmont, and Scarpa alternatives look really interesting.

I'm going to be in Colorado next week. Any places in Boulder or Summit County you guys would recomend that have good selections?
 

bigreen505

Expedition Leader
I think it might be worth a look at REI in Denver just to try on a few different options.

In Boulder you have Neptune Mountaineering, but I'm sure there are many others. Not sure about Summit County, perhaps look at the outlet mall (there are some outdoor type stores in the block with the Nike store).
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
upcruiser said:
I'm going to be in Colorado next week. Any places in Boulder or Summit County you guys would recomend that have good selections?
The man to talk to is Lee Kinney at the Custom Foot. He's on Broadway here in Denver, a block or so south of Yale. He used to work out of the Mountain Miser, but when they closed he opened his own shop. I have not had the chance to see his new shop, but I've heard that he's selling boots now and if so I would expect he'd have Scarpa and Garmont and maybe Crispi. If he's not selling boots, he will certainly have very valuable insight and he's worth shooting the breeze with. Otherwise, a couple of the remaining outdoor shops worth their weight are Bent Gate (out in Golden) and Neptune (up in Boulder). It's always worth a stop at Wilderness Exchange downtown. They are not really a full line stocking dealer, but get seconds and closeouts that are cheaper than full retail. On new boots, unless you known which model and size, this is probably not an option, tho. In any case, Lee's been fitting boots for 20 years at least and is the only person I trust for the boot fit itself. As far as REI, I'd avoid taking much of anything they tell you as the gospel, but they do have boots and it's a place you can browse. I avoid spending much money there since I'd rather spend my pay checks with the local guys when I can. Obviously I'm in the minority as evidenced by the closing of the Miser.
 

bigreen505

Expedition Leader
DaveInDenver said:
As far as REI, I'd avoid taking much of anything they tell you as the gospel, but they do have boots and it's a place you can browse. I avoid spending much money there since I'd rather spend my pay checks with the local guys when I can.
:iagree

My reason for recommending looking there is selection.
 
how about for boots with a maximum of ankle support? ive had a pair of red wings for years, theyre great in summer but once the mink oil is out, theyre not waterproof and theyre cold in winter. i continue to use them 3-season and for short outdoor work in winter as they fit custom insoles easily and have a ton of ankle support and great traction on anything--my ankles have been trashed several times over the years running xc, and the continuous leather and high top on the red wings has kept me out of sprained, rolled and/or broken ankles many times.

is there a winter hiking boot with similar protection?
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
devinsixtyseven said:
is there a winter hiking boot with similar protection?
I use my mountaineering boots for all around hiking in the winter and my favorite was a set of Kolfach Viva plastics boots. Sadly I lost them to theft a few years ago and have been making due with my Merrell Liberty Ridge leathers until the day I can justify a new pair of plastic boots. None-the-less my Merrells are plenty rigid and easily comparable in ankle support to my 6" cuff work boots (Wolverine 1442). I would suggest something like a LaSportiva Makalu, which is a single leather mountaineering boot. This would be a nice heavy duty winter boot that's good enough for mild technical ice, should you want to try that.
 

upcruiser

Perpetual Transient
I almost picked up some Red Wings for work boots when I was still swinging the hammer. I haven't looked at their hiking boots before but their work boots are great. Plenty of support, but nice, soft and flexible soles which makes kneeling in them alot easy. I was using my crazy stiff Scarpas for awhile and it was killing my fee trying to bend those stiff bricks.

Anyway, being the chicken**** that I am, I went in to my local shop (which is a great little shop with climbing, paddling, nordic, and alpine gear) and told them my feelings, fears, and desires. I ended up ordering some Sundowners. I had to go with what I know I like. They gave me a good deal on them that matched what I saw them advertised for on a couple of websites and on top of that I'm supporting a local business which I try to do as much as possible.

So thanks for all the help. It was funny I started out totally open, then reverted back to what I must have wanted all along deep inside. Call me conservative.:p
 

ZooJunkie

Explorer
I've owned a pair of Vasque Sundowner Classics for the last 12 years now, still waterproof and still comfortable. However, if you have skinny ankles like me, the button bindings on the top of the boot might rub against your shins when you tighten your laces. Otherwise, I would recommend a pair of these classic boots. I would certainly buy another pair. I got my pair at REI 12 years ago.

Great boot! It's nice to fall back on classics. :)
 
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upcruiser

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Well, I thought I'd give an update on the boots. I ordered a set in "burgandy" through my local shop here (I like to support the local businesses whenever I can, especially being that this comunity is so small). I picked them up last week after returning from Colorado. Boy was I excited to get them. First thing I did was coat them in sno seal then go out on a 3 hour hike. Winter has been really weak here this season, so all I needed where my gaitors and did a loop that hit a couple of cool high areas overlooking Lake Superior. Ouch. That's how I can sum it up. My old Sundowners I recall as breaking in rather quickly and having a nice soft feel to the leather. These new ones are stiff planks. I'd heard the rumors that since production moved to China, the quality of the leather suffered but I wasn't expecting this. I've been wearing them around as much as possible over the last week but really, I'm not feeling them getting any more comfortable. The heel pocket rubs me the wrong way and the area over the ball of the foot where the boot flexes, pinches me from the stiff leather making a rather sharp crease. Also the boot feels a bit wider. I was assured that the lasts were the same as the old boots but I'm not sure. Unfortunately I'm not too happy so far. I'm really hoping that they will break in here still though. If not, does anyone have any suggestions for a leather softner that might be able to help take some of the rigidness out of the leather?
 

bigreen505

Expedition Leader
Sorry to hear that Kristian, sounds like mine.

You could try Mink Oil, but I'm not sure that it is any better than sno seal and once you put the sno seal on and melt it in, the leather is pretty impervious to just about everything.
 

TeleScooby

Adventurer
After being a boot fitter at the main REI here in Seattle for several years, I can tell you one thing about the newest generation of Vasques...they're going to sell alot less of them. The last is nowhere near the same, the leather is too still, the soles are having a nasty habit of falling off, and they don't distribute the Sundowner Classic nearly as much as before, they're pushing the Sundowner Summit more.

That said, the only thing I know of that will soften yours up is the old baseball mitt trick: Treat them with a liberal coating of mink oil, then stick them in a warm (NOT HOT) oven for 10 minutes or so, watching constantly, then put 'em on and walk around the neighborhood for awhile...

That, and for further fit refinement, try some moldable insoles, like Sole, or Montrail markets some similar under their own name...
 

upcruiser

Perpetual Transient
Mink oil it is then. I'll give the oven trick a try and see if that helps. They just feel like cardboard right now. The old ones were so much different. I still have them and the leather is actually in pretty good condition on them so I'm probably going to have them resoled and at least have those to fall back on.

Chalk it up to another quality casualty from our outsourcing of labor to China.
 

TeleScooby

Adventurer
If you don't have a good cobbler in town, look up Dave Page Cobbler. He's here in Seattle and does work for people all over the globe...
 

SeaRubi

Explorer
I bought a pair of Asolo 535's about 8 years ago at seattle REI. These have been a great boot. vibram soles, nice tongues on 'em, good ankle support when cinched up but i like to leave them a bit loose since i don't have any issues with that dept. they're not waterproof which is my only complaint, but it takes several minutes of standing in a submerged stream before i feel anything. with just going through normal crossings and through puddles etc. they stay very dry , and I've only treated them once. At $135 (back then) for the pair I've been fairly happy with them. THey had a goretex version of the same boot for closer to $200.

fwiw.
 

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