Streakerfreak
Jan-Kee
mcm4090 said:That would be your personal opinion.
AND the Frontier of course
I had an 02 Frontier and I loved that thing. Yes much different then the 05 Frontier, but good quality and performance.
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mcm4090 said:That would be your personal opinion.
mcm4090 said:Now I don't have a Taco but I do have a midsized truck. The wiidth of truck is greater and is noticable on the trails in the east but I have done every trail at URE in N.C.
I do enjoy the size since I have two (one is a teenager) and with the depth of the bed I am able to carry on my camping and trail gear for a four day trip.
the dude said:Thanks for some really good responses.
Are there any mechanical issues/differences that people don't like? I am a big fan of lever transfer cases and manual hubs, and I am sure in time these "fixes" will be available for the 05+ tacos (if they aren't already built)
But what about engines, transmissions, axles ect. Did toyota make improvements on the newer tacos?
Jacket said:Using this logic, we should all scrap or EFI engines, and see what it would take to perform a conversion back to a carburetor. Adoro la cerradura de vapor :cow:
Oh yea, and lets toss out our electric starters and bring back the hand crank![]()
Just messin with you Martin. The new FJC's have a manual transfer case shifter, so someone will figure out how to retrofit it into the Tacomas given that most of the other drivetrain parts are the same. But regardless, strictly mechanical parts will continue to become more and more obsolete - no way to stop that.
maxama10 said:As much as I hate to say it,
there is one guy on TN and TTORA
Tacogrande/Tacosupreme
beats the piss out of his truck and he says it is going to be destroyed soon and he is going to get something else.
He's made a ton of modifications, and now says that it is not a good vehicle for a starting point for someone like him.
As I said though, he's beating the snot out of the truck and drives it daily on one of the autobahns.
Edit: our stumptaco wheels with him over there
So, you could also take it the other way and say it is a good truck for putting up with that, but he says he is going to destroy it or is well on the way to destroying it. Either way.
the dude said:Thanks for some really good responses.
Are there any mechanical issues/differences that people don't like? I am a big fan of lever transfer cases and manual hubs, and I am sure in time these "fixes" will be available for the 05+ tacos (if they aren't already built)
But what about engines, transmissions, axles ect. Did toyota make improvements on the newer tacos?
Martinjmpr said:First off, let me say that if my earlier posts made it sound like I'm "bashing" the 05+ Taco, that wasn't my intention. I'm sure those of you who have your 05+ Tacos like them just fine, and I certainly see a lot of them out and about. So I hope nobody took offense at that.![]()
Second, it seems to me that what's been happening in the car market is that as the American marques fade, Toyota and Honda have been moving steadily "up market." IOW they are making their vehicles more expensive and adding more features. Things that used to be options become standard, that sort of thing.
What does that do to the truck market? Well, IMO it creates a vacuum at the "bottom" end of the market (especially since the bargain-basement Ranger is slated to be taken out of production after 2009.)
So the million $$ question is, who fills that vacuum? I think if Toyota was smart they'd import some no-frills Hiluxes or come out with a no-frills truck to compete, but that may not be viable. Hyundai or Kia could come in with a stripped down, no-frills truck and undercut Toyotas price and I think they would do very well, especially if they offered it with a fuel-sipping 4 cyl and a simple 5 speed and regular 4wd setup. It wouldn't be a speed demon but it would work, and more importantly it might get the same 25mpg that my 85 Toyota pickup routinely returned. Combine that with a price in the mid- to high-teens for a 4wd and I think they'd have a real hit on their hands.
Another possibility is Mahindra coming in with a small truck.
I think it may be difficult for younger people to understand, but Toyota didn't enter the market as the 800lb gorilla they are now. They entered the market as a niche-filling maker of small, efficient cars. That niche still exists, even if Toyota's now too big to fill it.
Martinjmpr said:So the million $$ question is, who fills that vacuum? I think if Toyota was smart they'd import some no-frills Hiluxes or come out with a no-frills truck to compete, but that may not be viable. Hyundai or Kia could come in with a stripped down, no-frills truck and undercut Toyotas price and I think they would do very well, especially if they offered it with a fuel-sipping 4 cyl and a simple 5 speed and regular 4wd setup. It wouldn't be a speed demon but it would work, and more importantly it might get the same 25mpg that my 85 Toyota pickup routinely returned. Combine that with a price in the mid- to high-teens for a 4wd and I think they'd have a real hit on their hands.