If Jeep offered more choices.....

[Dan Grec]

I'd like to re-iterate and make this very clear:

The 3.0 VM / Motori Diesel has passed US Emissions testing.

It's coming to the North American Grand Cherokee in 2013, so there is absolutely nothing stopping it going into the Wrangler.
In the GC, it gets 28MPG combined, while making 237hp and 405 ft. lbs of torque.

(In Oz you can't get the Rubicon in diesel which is stupid, but you can in other overseas markets)

-Dan

EDIT: Fixed the ft. lbs. number as per Metcalf's correction

 

[postalWagon]

DIESEL + RUBICON
And a better roll cage.

 

[AsltPnr54]

I'd like to re-iterate and make this very clear:

The 3.0 VM / Motori Diesel has passed US Emissions testing.

It's coming to the North American Grand Cherokee in 2013, so there is absolutely nothing stopping it going into the Wrangler.
In the GC, it gets 28MPG combined, while making 550 ft. lbs of torque.

(In Oz you can't get the Rubicon in diesel which is stupid, but you can in other overseas markets)

-Dan

This please, in this:

 

[Metcalf]

The new VM/Fiat 3.0 diesel makes 237hp and 405ft/lbs

It's listed as 550 Nm........not ft lbs.

Now, its will probably make 500ft/lbs with a little computer altercations

 

[toymaster]

If the fiat diesel is true and the numbers are real I'll be swapping one in as soon as I find a wreaked one. Shouldn't be over a year after release till you can find one.

 

[snakedoctor]

Would love to see that J12 go into production...crew cab, 5' bed, 3.0 diesel (or the 5.7 Hemi...the 6.4 would be ridiculous!), 6 speed manny, twin stick transfercase....6500lbs towing capacity, rhino lined flooring....

Basically give the Toyota Tacoma a run for its' money...

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This! Im with you all the way I love my PU truck now that I had one and want to keep it but would love to have the jeep capabilities! BUT I want diesel!

 

[Dan Grec]

If the fiat diesel is true and the numbers are real I'll be swapping one in as soon as I find a wreaked one. Shouldn't be over a year after release till you can find one.

I will be extremely surprised if AEV don't at least attempt the conversion once it's out in the GC to determine the feasibility. (like they did with the Liberty diesel)

-Dan

 

[Metcalf]

I hope the new 3.0 diesel from VM/Fiat will fit in the JK chassis. The older 3.0 from benz would not easily fit because there was an interference issue with the steering box if I remember right.

I would be tickled pink with even the 2.8 in the Wrangler chassis. I have driven that combination and it is FANTASTIC overall. How does 24mpg pushing aggressive 37s around sound

In the modern diesel world, the 3.0 VM diesel in the wrangler would be so perfect. The 2012's already have the automatic needed for the swap, the engine will just bolt right to it from what I understand.

My reservations about modern diesel engines still stand however.Without the ability to run on 3rd world diesel fuel that isn't ultra low sulfur, I just don't know how attractive the engine would be for the expedition market?

 

[Clutch]

My reservations about modern diesel engines still stand however.Without the ability to run on 3rd world diesel fuel that isn't ultra low sulfur, I just don't know how attractive the engine would be for the expedition market?

Just delete the emission equipment....which is quite common with the modern PSD/Cummins crowd...

 

[Dan Grec]

Just delete the emission equipment....which is quite common with the modern PSD/Cummins crowd...

That's exactly what I was thinking about.
I'd like to "trick" the computer however possible to let me run low quality diesel.

I wonder if that will have any longevity impact on the engine itself, or if the only consequence will be nasty emissions. I'll cross that bridge when the diesel becomes reality.

-Dan

 

[Clutch]

That's exactly what I was thinking about.
I'd like to "trick" the computer however possible to let me run low quality diesel.

I wonder if that will have any longevity impact on the engine itself, or if the only consequence will be nasty emissions. I'll cross that bridge when the diesel becomes reality.

-Dan

Engines are the same...it is just the emission equipment that knows the difference.

Loads and loads of information on delete kits out there...

 

[Dan Grec]

Engines are the same...it is just the emission equipment that knows the difference.

Loads and loads of information on delete kits out there...

Nice. I was wondering if there would be horrible build-up on the injectors or anywhere else critical?
I figure I would run a very high grade diesel filter anyway when in 3rd world countries, so that would help with the "contaminants" side of things.

Thanks for the info... (sorry for the thread hijack)

-Dan

 

[MOAK]

If they offered a diesel with 6 speed manual in the JKU, and offered a stripped down Rubicon package, I'd order one tomorrow.. I don't need $12000 worth of mall crawler gizmology..

 

[Vinman]

How about a JK with the complete drivetrain out of a Powerwagon?
Hemi - check
5 speed auto - check
Strong diffs - check
4.56 gears - check
Selectable lockers - check

If Jeep would build that, I would almost like the JKs

Vince

 

[Frank]

They already produce what I want. When its available, I'll highly consider it. The problem is, soccer moms that want the top down is keeping the current models going strong and Jeep is ignoring the real Jeep community.

http://www.jeep.co.uk/wrangler/special_order