Instagram now owns your photos!

Scott Brady

Founder
Deleted mine yesterday. With pros and aspiring amatuers leaving by the droves, Instagram will have a fun time keeping people interested with pictures of food and cats...
 

cnynrat

Expedition Leader
Never had an Instagram account, so no problem there. Facebook's photo policies aren't very friendly to their owners, so this isn't really a total surprise to me.

I saw an article somewhere that referred to the Instagram notification letter as "Instagram's suicide note."
 

Ryanmb21

Expedition Leader
I think I'm going to delete mine.

Bummer, since I actually enjoyed the app.

What would be something similar? Flickr?

I don't use facebook and twitter is too much advertising
 

4xdog

Explorer
A BBC report on this notes New York photographer Clayton Cubbit posted on his account that the new policy represents Instagram's "suicide note". That seems about right to me.

Facebook was kinda fun to connect with elementary school friends and distant cousins. Beyond that, I don't get it. The whole concept seems to have jumped the shark.

Don
 

Ryanmb21

Expedition Leader
Update!

Looks like they have updated their position:

http://blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-were-listening

Thank you, and we’re listening

Yesterday we introduced a new version of our Privacy Policy and Terms of Service that will take effect in thirty days. These two documents help communicate as clearly as possible our relationship with the users of Instagram so you understand how your data will be used, and the rules that govern the thriving and active Instagram community. Since making these changes, we’ve heard loud and clear that many users are confused and upset about what the changes mean.

I’m writing this today to let you know we’re listening and to commit to you that we will be doing more to answer your questions, fix any mistakes, and eliminate the confusion. As we review your feedback and stories in the press, we’re going to modify specific parts of the terms to make it more clear what will happen with your photos.

Legal documents are easy to misinterpret. So I’d like to address specific concerns we’ve heard from everyone:

Advertising on Instagram From the start, Instagram was created to become a business. Advertising is one of many ways that Instagram can become a self-sustaining business, but not the only one. Our intention in updating the terms was to communicate that we’d like to experiment with innovative advertising that feels appropriate on Instagram. Instead it was interpreted by many that we were going to sell your photos to others without any compensation. This is not true and it is our mistake that this language is confusing. To be clear: it is not our intention to sell your photos. We are working on updated language in the terms to make sure this is clear.

To provide context, we envision a future where both users and brands alike may promote their photos & accounts to increase engagement and to build a more meaningful following. Let’s say a business wanted to promote their account to gain more followers and Instagram was able to feature them in some way. In order to help make a more relevant and useful promotion, it would be helpful to see which of the people you follow also follow this business. In this way, some of the data you produce — like the actions you take (eg, following the account) and your profile photo — might show up if you are following this business.

The language we proposed also raised question about whether your photos can be part of an advertisement. We do not have plans for anything like this and because of that we’re going to remove the language that raised the question. Our main goal is to avoid things likes advertising banners you see in other apps that would hurt the Instagram user experience. Instead, we want to create meaningful ways to help you discover new and interesting accounts and content while building a self-sustaining business at the same time.

Ownership Rights Instagram users own their content and Instagram does not claim any ownership rights over your photos. Nothing about this has changed. We respect that there are creative artists and hobbyists alike that pour their heart into creating beautiful photos, and we respect that your photos are your photos. Period.

I always want you to feel comfortable sharing your photos on Instagram and we will always work hard to foster and respect our community and go out of our way to support its rights.

Privacy Settings Nothing has changed about the control you have over who can see your photos. If you set your photos to private, Instagram only shares your photos with the people you’ve approved to follow you. We hope that this simple control makes it easy for everyone to decide what level of privacy makes sense.

I am grateful to everyone for their feedback and that we have a community that cares so much. We need to be clear about changes we make — this is our responsibility to you. One of the main reasons these documents don’t take effect immediately, but instead 30 days from now, is that we wanted to make sure you had an opportunity to raise any concerns. You’ve done that and are doing that, and that will help us provide the clarity you deserve. Thank you for your help in making sure that Instagram continues to thrive and be a community that we’re all proud of. Please stay tuned for updates coming soon.

Sincerely,

Kevin Systrom co-founder, Instagram
 

LR Max

Local Oaf
Never used the app and I'm surprised by this.

Also Flickr just rolled out their new app. I haven't downloaded it but some say it would be a competitor. I've got a flickr account. Pay $25 a year to have my photos on the web that I can get to. Originally I used it to share with other photographers but now its just a little bit more protected photobucket for me.

Facebook for me is where I share all the stupid crap I find on the internet with my friends. That is really what it boils down to these days. Also seems to be a big "social media" backlash. A number of my close friends have deleted their accounts. I've thought about it but I like stupid/funny pictures too much.
 

FLYFISHEXPERT

LivingOverland.com
I have been playing around with the Flickr app for android, and it isn't a direct competitor to Instagram. Too many steps to post photos onto fb/twitter and the filters are not as 'creative' as Instagram's. It isn't bad though, and I think it won't be long before they make changes to make it more of a competitor.
 

nwoods

Expedition Leader
It surprised me not at all tgat Instagram made that move. I was maybe a little surprised that it took so long. Twitter updated their iOS app recently to have all or most of the same filter and crop options that Instagram has. It might be a better alternative. Certainly not Pintrest or FB, both of whom have horrible usage policies regarding your copyrights.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
In an interview in 2010, Mark Zuckerberg, founder and majority stock holder of Facebook, said, "Privacy is dead -- Deal with it." So it's no surprise that Facebook subsidiary Instagram wants to reduce its privacy protections. Zuckerberg has a history of changing Facebook's terms of service agreement without warning, and later apologizing. How does that old saying go? "Seek forgiveness, not permission."

the articles I've read since the Instagram fiasco say that Flickr has the best privacy protections in its terms of service agreement. Flickr is a subsidiary of Yahoo. Flickr has a new app for iOS and Android that includes filters and options similar to Instagram's. If that's not enough, apps like Camera Awesome (yes, that's its name) offer many more ways to manipulate your photos before uploading to Flickr.

Here's an article about Flickr vs Instagram
http://www.imore.com/flickr-best-alternative-instagram

And here's an article that details how Flickr has improved its service
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-kanalley/new-flickr-app-instagram_b_2331781.html
 

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