JK/J8 Flippac rumor??

elcoyote

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Thank you for your patience folks and the kind replies. It has taken longer than we expected as I think we often underestimate the the complexities and the time to develop satisfactory solutions.

So what JK configuration will the Habitat fit? Does it matter if its a soft top or hard?

I completely replaces either top on the JK Unlimited.
 

kb7our

Explorer
BRAVO!!!!

It must feel very satisfying to see this come to fruition!

Is the finished color still slated to be black like factory?

Does Christmas delivery timeframe seem about right based on remaining work and likely 8 weeks to build up pre-orders after that? It's just a guess plus I want to be sure that Santa leaves a little room in the sleigh for Prescott pickup. :elkgrin:
 
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elcoyote

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Here is an image that shows the pass through the roof section into the sleeping loft. The pass though is positioned between the fore & aft roll bars directly above the rear passenger seat. The pass through has a 50/50 split hatch. Once the cap and tent are deployed, the next step is to fold down one of the rear seats, get in, push up on one or both of the hatches and stand up through the pass through. The sleeping loft platform is about 39" up from the folded down seat so a simple hop up or a pelican case used as a step makes for easy access. With one half of the hatch left in place, there is easily sleeping for 3 adults. Re-insert both hatches and it can sleep 4.

Habitat-Plug-Top-View.jpg
 

elcoyote

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0004
BRAVO!!!!

It must feel very satisfying to see this come to fruition!

Is the finished color still slated to be black like factory?

Does Christmas delivery timeframe seem about right based on remaining work and likely 8 weeks to build up pre-orders after that? It's just a guess plus I want to be sure that Santa leaves a little room in the sleigh for Prescott pickup. :elkgrin:

It can be color matched if desired. The initial unit on the J8 will be white to match. You can certainly get black if you like.

Xmas delivery time frame seems attainable for the pre-orders.
 

mountainsoul

Adventurer
Mario, another question regarding the standing room here too. How much is there? I was under the impression that the entire space behind the front seats was available to stand. Is it only going to be the space under the hatch cut-out? Is it possible to have the entire rear area as a functioning hatch so that the trunk area of the JK is "standable" or does the design not allow for that?
 

kjp1969

Explorer
Here is an image that shows the pass through the roof section into the sleeping loft. The pass though is positioned between the fore & aft roll bars directly above the rear passenger seat. The pass through has a 50/50 split hatch. Once the cap and tent are deployed, the next step is to fold down one of the rear seats, get in, push up on one or both of the hatches and stand up through the pass through. The sleeping loft platform is about 39" up from the folded down seat so a simple hop up or a pelican case used as a step makes for easy access. With one half of the hatch left in place, there is easily sleeping for 3 adults. Re-insert both hatches and it can sleep 4.

Oh hell, now I just don't have any excuse left.
 

elcoyote

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So this works more like the ecamper than a traditional FP? Meaning when the tent is deployed you do not gain standing room?

Mario, another question regarding the standing room here too. How much is there? I was under the impression that the entire space behind the front seats was available to stand. Is it only going to be the space under the hatch cut-out? Is it possible to have the entire rear area as a functioning hatch so that the trunk area of the JK is "standable" or does the design not allow for that?

No, it works like as shown in the original concept photos, like an ATFP but with center access. If you refer back to post #150, I laid out the design concept and the reasons why. The only difference is that the hatch split is 50/50. We feel that the rear roll bar would limit the access if the area from the back of the passenger seat to the tailgate were left open. We do not advocate nor wish to create a design that might temp people to remove the rear roll bar for obvious safety and liability reasons.

Stand up room will be 85".

FROM POST #150: Access to the sleeping platform will be through either of the rear passenger doors. The user will be able to fold the seats forward and then stand up between the 2 roll bars. A 60/40 split hatch that makes up the interior roof above the rear passenger seats will be removable and provide the access to the sleeping area. The reason we chose access in this manner was to keep the rear cargo intact for its intended purpose. Rear door access would mean that all cargo would have to be removed for access, undeniably, not very convenient and hence our design decision. When entering through this hatch, a platform will remain above the rear cargo area for staging bags etc. The hatch can be replaced from inside the sleeping area if desired to increase the sleeping area for children.

Is there any plans on redesigning the ATFP? To have more of an AT look and feel design?

I can't say at this time
 

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kb7our

Explorer
Interesting, so it is pretty much a big RTT.

I was hoping the whole back area would be open for standing and living.

Nice concept but not workable really with the roll bar in the way on the Jeep for which it is designed. Rear shelf area seems perfect for handy storage when the tent is deployed. Now that we are all patiently awaiting final assembly pics maybe AT will continue to release stages to us. Deployed tent and an array of interior shots plus maybe a video release would be most excellent!
 

mountainsoul

Adventurer
We feel that the rear roll bar would limit the access if the area from the back of the passenger seat to the tailgate were left open. We do not advocate nor wish to create a design that might temp people to remove the rear roll bar for obvious safety and liability reasons.

Affirmative.

I just went down to look at the rear of the JK and after really looking at it there isn't much room behind the rear seat/rear roll bar anyways. So I can fully understand this decision.

The fact that it will now sleep 4 adults is a big plus on the other side of the coin.

Very much look forward to seeing the final product.
 

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