JK tire carriers- Tera-flex vs AEV?

[Septu]

Just as an FYI for that Titan Tank. In talking to morryde about whether more then the hinges was recommended, this is what they had to say:

Hey Septu

I talked to our engineer. Tailgate re-enforcement would definitely be needed with the Titan tank you were referring to. That's a lot of extra weight on the back end so it would definitely be recommended to add some type of re-enforcement.

 

[jscherb]

Just as an FYI for that Titan Tank. In talking to morryde about whether more then the hinges was recommended, this is what they had to say:

Hey Septu

I talked to our engineer. Tailgate re-enforcement would definitely be needed with the Titan tank you were referring to. That’s a lot of extra weight on the back end so it would definitely be recommended to add some type of re-enforcement.

The MORryde reinforcement would be a good choice, it's part of the system that starts with their HD tailgate hinges... http://www.morryde.com/products/147...t?return=/product-category/9-jeep-accessories.

 

[kojackJKU]

Yes Jeff, that is going on my tailgate before the titan tank that's for sure. I only have a 33 hanging off the back, so I think my stock carrier will be fine, but I am going to add the re-enforcement.

 

[jscherb]

Yes Jeff, that is going on my tailgate before the titan tank that's for sure. I only have a 33 hanging off the back, so I think my stock carrier will be fine, but I am going to add the re-enforcement.

The Titan tank mounts on the spare carrier, so you have to figure the weight of your 33 plus the weight of the full Titan tank when deciding if your stock spare carrier is up to the task. The Titan when full weighs about 100 lbs. according to their web site, guessing your 33 at 55 lbs. puts 155 lbs. on the spare carrier. The MORryde tailgate reinforcement definitely is up to that weight and more, but you might want to add the MORryde HD spare carrier to the equation to carry that kind of weight. 140 lbs. is probably risky on the stock spare carrier, although it's worth asking Titan what they recommend (their web site says "It is the user’s responsibility to ensure the mounting point on the vehicle is sufficient for the weight."). You could upgrade to the MORryde reinforcement first (you'll be surprised how much more rigid your tailgate feels with the reinforcement, even with a 33), and then add the HD spare carrier when you get the Titan.

 

[kojackJKU]

Will the tank fit on the morryde carrier? that's the only issue I have. I would switch in heart beat.

 

[Comanche Scott]

Something to consider with any auxiliary fuel tank is, it doesn't have to be full. 5 gallons of fuel will go a long way. So using the AEV or Titan system, it doesn't necessarily have to be overly heavy.
Personally I like both, but went a totally different route.

 

[jscherb]

Will the tank fit on the morryde carrier? that's the only issue I have. I would switch in heart beat.

Looking at the photos and info on the Titan web site I don't see any reason why it wouldn't.

 

[wADVr]

Looking at the photos and info on the Titan web site I don't see any reason why it wouldn't.

I'm interested in the option as well, how does the MORyde reinforcement compare to the TeraFlex carrier? If I am visualizing correctly the TeraFlex carrier would also reinforce the door. I am skeptical of the door strength and am having a hard time seeing how they hold up to 150+lbs of static weight, let alone inertia being applied. I do see that the portion of the door is reinforced from the hinge point to the center where the tire mounts but how does the rest of the door get reinforced to the latch side? The skin on my door is dented and flimsy but there is the inner structure, does the reinforcement tie in with the inner structure of the door and that is sufficient or is there more that I am missing of the picture? This reasoning is why I have shied away from these type of carriers.

 

[jscherb]

I'm interested in the option as well, how does the MORyde reinforcement compare to the TeraFlex carrier? If I am visualizing correctly the TeraFlex carrier would also reinforce the door. I am skeptical of the door strength and am having a hard time seeing how they hold up to 150+lbs of static weight, let alone inertia being applied. I do see that the portion of the door is reinforced from the hinge point to the center where the tire mounts but how does the rest of the door get reinforced to the latch side? The skin on my door is dented and flimsy but there is the inner structure, does the reinforcement tie in with the inner structure of the door and that is sufficient or is there more that I am missing of the picture? This reasoning is why I have shied away from these type of carriers.

The Teraflex and the MORryde tailgate reinforcements are similar in that they support the weight of the spare instead of having the weight being supported by the tailgate sheet metal, so the 150lbs of weight is borne by the reinforcement and HD hinges and transferred to the tub, which is reinforced internally.

Both the Teraflex and MORryde products are high quality, excellent products, I don't think you would go wrong with either one.

More specifically to your question, here are a few differences between the Teraflex and the MORryde reinforcements/hinges:

- The MORryde system consists of 3 main components, all of which can be purchased and installed separately - HD hinges, tailgate reinforcement and HD/large spare carrier. The Teraflex consists of two main components - combination HD hinges/tailgate reinforcement and spare carrier. Both reinforcements can work with the factory spare carrier, if the factory carrier is strong enough for your spare.

- Both systems have accessories, such as a Rotopax container carrier and a Hi-Lift carrier.

- The MORryde HD hinges have a zerk fitting so you can keep the hinge pins greased, and bronze bushings for the hinge pins which are replaceable in the event they should ever wear (unlikely if you keep them greased). The Teraflex hinge does not have a provision for greasing and I don't believe it has a provision for rebuilding.

- The MORryde system is significantly less expensive than other tailgate reinforcement/HD hinge/large spare carrier products on the market.

 

[tlbeach]

I just received my complete kit of HD hinges, reinforcement kit and tire carrier today. Hopefully will be undertaking the installation on Sunday. I will post some pictures early next week.

Mr. Scherb, what is the order of installation for the hinges and reinforcement kit? Does it matter?

Thanks.

 

[jscherb]

I just received my complete kit of HD hinges, reinforcement kit and tire carrier today. Hopefully will be undertaking the installation on Sunday. I will post some pictures early next week.

Mr. Scherb, what is the order of installation for the hinges and reinforcement kit? Does it matter?

Thanks.

You want to install the reinforcement first, leaving the bolts a bit loose, then install the hinges (the hinges mount on top of part of the reinforcement). Then tighten everything down as you verify that the tailgate is in the proper position - not at an angle, latches properly, etc.

 

[tlbeach]

Thanks!

 

[Comanche Scott]

You want to install the reinforcement first, leaving the bolts a bit loose, then install the hinges (the hinges mount on top of part of the reinforcement). Then tighten everything down as you verify that the tailgate is in the proper position - not at an angle, latches properly, etc.

And the final step is to take pictures of all this, while celebrating with your favorite microbrew, and post them here.
Extra credit for a short review... on the beer.

 

[kojackJKU]

Jeff, don't forget to show a picture with the saquatch standing on it...ha ha How tall are you again?

 

[jscherb]

Jeff, don't forget to show a picture with the saquatch standing on it...ha ha How tall are you again?

Aw, c'mon, nobody wants to see a photo of a 6'6", 225-lb. gorilla standing on a spare tire on the tailgate