Landie Defender in Colorado
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Purple People Eater
Explorer
Dmarchand said:
Just curious, why are tow miles so bad?
LRNAD90
Adventurer
Dmarchand said:
Transfer case can be put into neutral, but as long as both axles are on the ground, I still don't understand the issues. I'd like to know if there is an issue, but I need help in understanding. It seems to me that it would not be any harder on the driveline to spin on the towbar, then it is under power from the engine? The lubricating oil is still there, and the components are still 'splash' lubricated, so if you could help with a more detailed description of why it is bad, that would be appreciated. Thanks.
MuddyMudskipper
Camp Ninja
Best4x4xfar said:
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Dmarchand said:
Please explain.
From what I understand putting the TCase in neutral is a common practice with folk pulling Jeeps and Samurais behind motorhomes. It doesn't seem to harm those vehicles.
kcowyo
ExPo Original
Flat towing an auto tranny = bad
Flat towing a manual tranny = ok
Can't say with LR's for sure, but with most other brands the front end components of manual transmission vehicle will still receive the lubricating oil as mentioned previously. That's not the case with automatic transmissions.
At least that is my understanding with flat towing a 4wd vehicle.
Flat towing a manual tranny = ok
Can't say with LR's for sure, but with most other brands the front end components of manual transmission vehicle will still receive the lubricating oil as mentioned previously. That's not the case with automatic transmissions.
At least that is my understanding with flat towing a 4wd vehicle.
dieselcruiserhead
16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
There is a theory that the reverse torque of the power coming from the wheels is bad for the gears and can deminish lublication. I never really believed either...
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Martinjmpr
Wiffleball Batter
kcowyo said:
If the TC is in neutral the transmission should be fine, right?
MuddyMudskipper
Camp Ninja
Martinjmpr said:
That's my understanding.
Michael Slade
Untitled
This is how I've been told you're supposed to flat-tow a LR:
Manual Transmission - 4th gear engaged (or highest gear attainable)
T-case - neutral
The gears in the transmission need to be spinning at least somewhat to splash enough oil around the gears. If the transmission is in neutral, just the mainshaft is spinning and isn't getting any oil to the gears.
This is an 'off-the-top-of-my-head' explaination of what Timm Cooper told me to do when I flat towed my '53, which has an LT-95 in it. I've always towed it like that and haven't had any problems. He stressed NEVER EVER tow with the transmission in neutral, but to have it engaged in 4th gear (in my case), and to have the t-case in neutral.
YMMV...
Manual Transmission - 4th gear engaged (or highest gear attainable)
T-case - neutral
The gears in the transmission need to be spinning at least somewhat to splash enough oil around the gears. If the transmission is in neutral, just the mainshaft is spinning and isn't getting any oil to the gears.
This is an 'off-the-top-of-my-head' explaination of what Timm Cooper told me to do when I flat towed my '53, which has an LT-95 in it. I've always towed it like that and haven't had any problems. He stressed NEVER EVER tow with the transmission in neutral, but to have it engaged in 4th gear (in my case), and to have the t-case in neutral.
YMMV...
kcowyo
ExPo Original
Michael Slade said:
:iagree:
After some light reading on the subject (on the all knowing internet...
) it seems Jeep, Toyota and GM do not recommend flat towing a 4wd vehicle. I couldn't find anything particular to LR's.There are a lot of descrepencies out there though. For instance, you can flat tow a RAV-4, but not a Highlander. You can flat tow a manual Wrangler, but not an automatic Grand Cherokee, etc. etc. etc.
What popped up over & over was to not flat tow a vehicle with AWD or fulltime 4wd. The inability to put the t-case in neutral can cause a variety of costly problems.
The one thing I learned from this reading is there is a ton of contradictory info out there. A call to a dealership service dept for specific vehicles may be the safest bet.
