Looking for a better tent.

john101477

Photographer in the Wild
the black pine is a turbo tent. they make a bunch of different tents though but cabels only stocks 1 or 2. they are strictly a 3 season tent. also be careful of hub style tents as they have a tendency to have issues in windy conditions.

The Kodiak is pretty tight but one thing that should be addressed is the size vs warmth issue. any tent that has lots of room and is tall is going to have warmth issues in cold situations regardless of material used. one place that a full cover fly and vestibule come in is the air between the tent and fly act as an insulated area helping to maintain heat. Having used the Cabelas alaknak for 3 years i can tell you that the material is thick and it was still cold in idaho in october/november
 

deadbeat son

Explorer
We tood the SD WuHu Annex 4+2 out for its shake-down run last night. The more I think about it, I don't think it's what you're looking for. It's thin rip-stop material typical of most backpacking tents. It has LOTS of mesh ventilation that doesn't zip up as well.

I think this is a great 3-season tent though. We set it up in around 10 minutes, and it was our first time; unfortunately we didn't have time to try it out prior to the trip. With the rain fly on, it stays plenty warm. The temp was probably in the upper 40s to lower 50s last night, and it rained the entire night. I was uber-comfy and slept like a baby in this thing. Even though it's a massive tent we didn't need more than the two of us to keep it warm.

If you would like photos, I can post a couple tomorrow.
 

SWbySWesty

Fauxverland Extraodinaire
x2 for Springbar. I think it'll last forever.

It's bulky and heavy so it's definitely a vehicle camping tent. I have the Outfitter 3 tent. It's a luxury to be able to stand up inside the tent to put on clothes. In case of bad weather, I can roll up my mattress, and put two chairs and mini table inside to hang out in (I haven't done this yet, but it would work in a pinch).

The smallest is the Compact 2000 if you want minimal space: DIRECT FROM THEIR SITE:

"Why buy a Springbar Compact instead of one of the many small two- and three-person nylon backpacking tents on the market? While we don't claim this tent is light enough to haul on your back (it isn't), it does pack handily into a small car or boat, on a pack animal, or in a Jeep. Compared to a nylon backpacking tent, a Springbar Compact will set up faster in most cases (no need for a separate rainfly), it's more comfortable (due to the natural breathability of our Sunforger cotton canvas), and a Compact will outlast a nylon tent by a factor of 2 or 3 times. This makes its low factory-direct price a bargain, indeed!
Price: $259.95"
 

redveloce

Adventurer
I have a 10x10 Springbar that I bought last summer and we love it so far. It is supposed to be more than 30 years old, but I don’t know the exact age. It has held up great over the years, takes probably half the time that my dome tent does to set up or take down, has a cavernous interior, and they’re supposed to be much better at holding up to high winds than most dome tents. On top of that they’re made in the USA and completely rebuildable by the manufacturer. It’s the kind of tent where a writing desk would look right at home.

Disadvantages would be weight and packed size.

You can see the Springbar in this picture. Sorry it’s not a better picture, but it was originally intended to be a picture of the truck, and I don’t have any pictures specifically of the tent.

CampingSide.jpg
 

rusty_tlc

Explorer
FWIW the Springbar/Kodiak is on our short list of new tent options.

A word of caution, one of my friends bought a Turbo tent. They look like a good option but he and his wife were disappointed with the tent. I think they maroj complaints were that it wasn't really water proof and had lots of little plastic bits that tend to break.
 

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