trendwood1@bigpond.com
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Have you discussed this issue with your MAN dealer ?. Your bracket may resolve the problem. Let us know they perform after your upcoming trip to the west
MAN 4x4 Truck camper build
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Well, after our first test trip onto corrugated dirt roads, I took it back to MAN to complain about the noise from bad vibrations from the disk backing plates.
They were not keen for me to remove them, hence why I built some brackets to try and tame to vibrations, as I have heard from others that vibrations cause them to crack/fracture and then basically fall off! All the MAN dealer did was to bend them away from the brake caliper, so they didn't make a noise when vibrating.
If MAN said it was fine to go without any backing plates then I'd probably do that, but they didn't.
Fouristrada Camper - I'd be interested to see photos of your solution. I have not fixed the back plates yet. They seem to be more difficult to engineer than the fronts.
Cheers
David
They were not keen for me to remove them, hence why I built some brackets to try and tame to vibrations, as I have heard from others that vibrations cause them to crack/fracture and then basically fall off! All the MAN dealer did was to bend them away from the brake caliper, so they didn't make a noise when vibrating.
If MAN said it was fine to go without any backing plates then I'd probably do that, but they didn't.
Fouristrada Camper - I'd be interested to see photos of your solution. I have not fixed the back plates yet. They seem to be more difficult to engineer than the fronts.
Cheers
David
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Yep - if they fall off, I think they will take out the ABS sensor wire and possibly damage the air brakes, so I am very keen to stop that happening!
I don't image it is an issue on your Mog. They seem all-round bullet proof
Iain_U1250
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Probably best to get a fix for it
The brake shields on the mog are more from armour plate I think, but not "standard equipment" on all of them. Mine being a road-rail mog did not have them, but I now have two sets and will fit them. They a pretty well supported and have lots of bolts and bits. These are the type I have ( mine will be a bit cleaner for a while) , there are other ones for "extreme" conditions that enclose the brake discs completely
A solution that is reported to work on Defender brake shields which crack around the bolt holes if to get some large fender washers, and using Sikaflex glue them on about 3mm thick Sikaflex. The Sikaflex takes up the flex, stopping the metal from cracking around the bolt holes. You need the primer etc for the Sikaflex to work properly. Not sure if this is applicable to where they fail on your truck.
The brake shields on the mog are more from armour plate I think, but not "standard equipment" on all of them. Mine being a road-rail mog did not have them, but I now have two sets and will fit them. They a pretty well supported and have lots of bolts and bits. These are the type I have ( mine will be a bit cleaner for a while) , there are other ones for "extreme" conditions that enclose the brake discs completely
A solution that is reported to work on Defender brake shields which crack around the bolt holes if to get some large fender washers, and using Sikaflex glue them on about 3mm thick Sikaflex. The Sikaflex takes up the flex, stopping the metal from cracking around the bolt holes. You need the primer etc for the Sikaflex to work properly. Not sure if this is applicable to where they fail on your truck.
As a complete distraction from working on the truck, I thought I'd make myself a volcano kettle (better known as Kelly Kettles or Ghillie Kettles)!
I have a little roller to form up the sheets, so that was an interesting exercise, working out the radius (radii?) of the cuts. Once I worked that all out I cut it up on the plasma cutter.
Welding 1mm ali is a trick! If you're not careful , you end up with a gaping hole pretty quickly. With a bit of patience, it started to take shape.
I tested it out last night. Works a treat
Boiling water in about 4 minutes, and it uses almost no fuel to do that!
A lot more details on how it was built here: Building-a-Volcano-Kettle
Am thinking it might be good to paint it in some hi-temp exhaust paint...
I have a little roller to form up the sheets, so that was an interesting exercise, working out the radius (radii?) of the cuts. Once I worked that all out I cut it up on the plasma cutter.
Welding 1mm ali is a trick! If you're not careful , you end up with a gaping hole pretty quickly. With a bit of patience, it started to take shape.
I tested it out last night. Works a treat
Boiling water in about 4 minutes, and it uses almost no fuel to do that!
A lot more details on how it was built here: Building-a-Volcano-Kettle
Am thinking it might be good to paint it in some hi-temp exhaust paint...
fuoristrada camper
Observer
The broken shield
With the re-enforced attachements
With the re-enforced attachements
fuoristrada camper
Observer
Yes just a reinforced L bracket ans some Sikaflex on the brake calliber to avoid vibration noise, and no more problems.
Grts
Grts
Made some steps last weekend, to make it easier to get in/out of the canopy. The ladder is OK if you're not carrying anything, but steps make it much easier.
I cut out 4 steps on the plasma cutter, putting in perforations to make them non-slip.
The steps sit on 2 rails and pivot, which makes them compact for storing away.
This is the finished product, with the yellow 'landing pad' pulled out to give side access:
This is how they pivot:
Lots more details on how they were built here: Stairs
I cut out 4 steps on the plasma cutter, putting in perforations to make them non-slip.
The steps sit on 2 rails and pivot, which makes them compact for storing away.
This is the finished product, with the yellow 'landing pad' pulled out to give side access:
This is how they pivot:
Lots more details on how they were built here: Stairs
superbuickguy
Explorer
I like those a lot - what grade aluminum did you use?
dust - I've found shows up when the surrounding environment is dark(er)... I'd take pictures of my projects on the way out of the shop, with the main lights off then wonder why it looked like a snowstorm in the picture...
dust - I've found shows up when the surrounding environment is dark(er)... I'd take pictures of my projects on the way out of the shop, with the main lights off then wonder why it looked like a snowstorm in the picture...
Thanks. They were pretty simple to make once I'd worked out the maths on making them level when open, and fold flat when closed.
I used 3mm aluminium sheet in some sort of structural grade. I can't remember the number, but they use it for making the hulls of boats.
The side rails are also structural Ali, used for fencing. If I made them over again, I'd probably go up a thickness, as 1.4mm is a tiny bit on the thin side perhaps. 1.6mm or 2.0mm might be the go. When a heavy person walks up the steps, the rails flex a little. Me - I am only 74Kg (155 pounds?) so they are fine for my weight.
I used 3mm aluminium sheet in some sort of structural grade. I can't remember the number, but they use it for making the hulls of boats.
The side rails are also structural Ali, used for fencing. If I made them over again, I'd probably go up a thickness, as 1.4mm is a tiny bit on the thin side perhaps. 1.6mm or 2.0mm might be the go. When a heavy person walks up the steps, the rails flex a little. Me - I am only 74Kg (155 pounds?) so they are fine for my weight.
Flaher Pete
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Goldanfish
Observer
Surely the MAN dealer would take note of it, that's a safety issue.
John
John
This is quite a belated post to say we are on our way. Actually, we are 3 weeks into our 8 week trip and currently sitting in Fitzroy Crossing, in the middle of a desert, near the top of Australia. Not all that many spots with internet connectivity out this way!!
So far we have done just over 4,500Kms (3000 miles) from home. Some days we do a lot of KMs, other days we do none. Today we went for a small boat cruise at a nearby gorge but then we spent the rest of the afternoon by the pool Mostly we are free camping as we are fully self contained, but every so often we wimp out and stop at a nice park or lodge for proper (long) showers and 240 volts and pools and things.
Our big unknown was the Tanami Track, which is 1000Kms (600 miles) of desert from Alice Springs to Halls Creek on a narrow rough dirt track. We were a bit worried how the truck would go with all the corrugations and wash-outs, but it did extremely well. Zero dramas. Which has given us a lot more confidence in it.
Here's a report of the drive through the Tanami Desert: Tanami-Track
And a couple of photos - red dust everywhere!:
Fuel usage was really good (for a 10 tonne truck) at 23.2 litres per 100Km (10.2 MPG)
Next stop is up to a place called Cape Leveque for some beach time and some fishing.
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Cheers
David
So far we have done just over 4,500Kms (3000 miles) from home. Some days we do a lot of KMs, other days we do none. Today we went for a small boat cruise at a nearby gorge but then we spent the rest of the afternoon by the pool
Mostly we are free camping as we are fully self contained, but every so often we wimp out and stop at a nice park or lodge for proper (long) showers and 240 volts and pools and things.Our big unknown was the Tanami Track, which is 1000Kms (600 miles) of desert from Alice Springs to Halls Creek on a narrow rough dirt track. We were a bit worried how the truck would go with all the corrugations and wash-outs, but it did extremely well. Zero dramas. Which has given us a lot more confidence in it.
Here's a report of the drive through the Tanami Desert: Tanami-Track
And a couple of photos - red dust everywhere!:
Fuel usage was really good (for a 10 tonne truck) at 23.2 litres per 100Km (10.2 MPG)
Next stop is up to a place called Cape Leveque for some beach time and some fishing.
Cheers
David