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Marlin Crawler or All-Pro front suspension update? Other recommendations?

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My King Expedition front lift is worn out on my 2013 Tacoma. I am prepping for a trip to the Dempster Highway and oil sands in Canada's North, in addition to the normal parks and stuff, and then on to Prudhoe Bay in Alaska. I was hoping to go South after that to Chile, but that seems unsafe right now (cartel violence in Mexico, and instability all over in general after Venezuela), and is a different topic for a different sub-forum.

I was thinking Marlin Crawler for my refresh, as I really need/want a better steering rack along with good articulation and general travel performance. My rig is currently set up more for Rock Crawling with King Expedition components, and steering feedback is a bit hard on my hands for longer drives. With my tires and higher steering force stress levels, I am also concerned about losing my steering rack in an inconvenient place on the road, as it is at 150,000 miles

The All-Pro setup is being recommended to me and is priced similarly, so a viable financial alternative. The new front-end structure looks promising. There seems to be a lot of All-Pro hate in general, but I don't know the history ...

Both front-end replacements will have the Land Cruiser 200 steering rack, which is a big plus for me.

So, given a budget that accommodates either the Marlin Crawler or All-Pro with its larger labor bill and lower overall parts cost, both seem to have a similar total installed cost. Why would members here choose one kit over the other, or something else of similar capability and quality?

Worth noting, my Tacoma is currently on a Dana 60 extended rear axle with E-diff and an ARB air locker on the factory front with 4.88 gears and 35" tires. It isn't going back to MOAB anytime soon. If one kit is easier to field repair with minimal support, that is an important data point for me as well. I don't require hardcore rock crawling capabilities, but I do want to maintain ground clearance to drive over larger obstacles within reason without gaining an excessively high center of gravity for off-camber situations. I will see loose sand, some mud and snow, occasional ice, and similar challenges as I travel North, Central, and South America, or maybe just North America, and maybe Australia, to avoid current troubles South of the USA in my part of the world (Texas-based :)🇺🇲)

TIA,
Sid
 
Have you checked TTORA? They tend to (or used to at least) have more extreme build/technical swap-out build type of info like this. I know I’ve seen posts and discussions on Marlin crawler products many times there and the members are more likely to be running mods like this.

That, and the fact that I have NO experience with the two products, said I have had good experiences with AllPro in the past for my old Tacoma. Mostly armor or smaller parts. Loved their rear bumper for my ’09. But no real idea how they are these days. Their MLT suspension system seems really well designed.

Good luck with it all!
 
Have you checked TTORA? They tend to (or used to at least) have more extreme build/technical swap-out build type of info like this. I know I’ve seen posts and discussions on Marlin crawler products many times there and the members are more likely to be running mods like this.

That, and the fact that I have NO experience with the two products, said I have had good experiences with AllPro in the past for my old Tacoma. Mostly armor or smaller parts. Loved their rear bumper for my ’09. But no real idea how they are these days. Their MLT suspension system seems really well designed.

Good luck with it all!

The Tacoma forums, in general, are rock-crawler-focused. They complain about the track being 3.5" wider and stuff like that, which really isn't helpful to me. Stuff like not being able clear 42" tires without some body modifications as well. Whining about 15" of articulation, which is only 13.5" with bump stops, etc., gets a bit tiresome when wading through the noise.

I'm hoping to find a few people here with more of a general overlanding perspective with some practical experience.
 
I get that completely. And I also agree with the TTORA and other Tacoma sites characterizations. It’ll be interesting to see what the intersection of overlanding perspective and crawler based tech is. Maybe I’m underestimating it . . .
 
I get that completely. And I also agree with the TTORA and other Tacoma sites characterizations. It’ll be interesting to see what the intersection of overlanding perspective and crawler based tech is. Maybe I’m underestimating it . . .

I tried signing up to TTORA, and my account was flagged as an automated bot account, and it told me that my account was rejected and to contact the adminstrators which I cannot see.

Apparently, they don't like members from the Dallas, TX area.
 
I tried signing up to TTORA, and my account was flagged as an automated bot account, and it told me that my account was rejected and to contact the adminstrators which I cannot see.

Apparently, they don't like members from the Dallas, TX area.
That’s quite weird. There Is some good info there, just not sure how it’s changed in 6 or 7 years since I quit visiting
 

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