Maverick or Ridgeline? 🤔 I’m stuck…

rruff

Explorer
Pause for a rant….
You left out the fact that...

1) EPA regulations favor larger vehicles.
2) If you drive a small vehicle it's dangerous in a collision, when everyone else has big ones.
3) Can't see around you, when all the other vehicles are taller.
4) The chicken/truck tax means they are safe from foreign competition.

The full size pickup with big front and rear seats has thus become the defacto "car" in the US. Of course the bed got smaller, because it's rarely used.

BTW, when the Maverick came out and the cheap one was only $20k, I thought that was a good choice. Don't know about now.
 

dstefan

Well-known member
Do Ridgelines still have those tapered/diagonal sloping bedsides? Prolly can kiss a camper goodbye on those, I would think?
 

STREGA

Explorer
That unfortunately is right in has caused most dealers to sell new ones at a premium over MSRP.

On the other hand, there are plenty used mavericks that are relatively affordable.

Price wise, the Ridgeline differential isn’t something that’s a problem for me. It’s extra space over the Maverick for storing gear is one of the pluses, I see as well as a much more reliable badge.
When I was looking at the Maverick prices were at MSRP no dealing much at all. Used ones were almost as much as new.
Sounds like to me you have yourself talked into the Ridgeline which is a good choice.
 
When I was looking at the Maverick prices were at MSRP no dealing much at all. Used ones were almost as much as new.
Sounds like to me you have yourself talked into the Ridgeline which is a good choice.
Are there any wedge toppers that fit Ridgeline?

Perhaps a truck with a low bed frame that supports a RTT…
 
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AbleGuy

Officious Intermeddler
You left out the fact that...
2) If you drive a small vehicle it's dangerous in a collision, when everyone else has big ones

I’m not that worried about getting squashed in a crash. I’m 73, have lived a great life (taken plenty of risks and lucky to be here today), have cancer and two major heart defects. So, I’m bulletproof. I plan to start skydiving lessons next year,🤣


This is my attitude about being an old fart living on borrowed time (I have cut my hair and trimmed my beard recently tho, and my cowboy hat is a bit bigger than this guy’s, but you get the drift, yeah?)
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@just_rich_young

@just_rich_young
I haven't driven the Ridgeline but I do drive a Maverick occasionally. I was pretty impressed with it but if it were me buying, I'd probable go Ridgeline for reliability and if I remember right, more towing and weight capability.
 

ThundahBeagle

Well-known member
You left out the fact that...

1) EPA regulations favor larger vehicles.
2) If you drive a small vehicle it's dangerous in a collision, when everyone else has big ones.
3) Can't see around you, when all the other vehicles are taller.
4) The chicken/truck tax means they are safe from foreign competition.

The full size pickup with big front and rear seats has thus become the defacto "car" in the US. Of course the bed got smaller, because it's rarely used.

BTW, when the Maverick came out and the cheap one was only $20k, I thought that was a good choice. Don't know about now.

Hi @rruff

I enjoy you posts. I do want to counterpoint though:

1) how does the EPA favor larger vehicles? Let's talk quarter ton and half ton pickups compared to everything down to the Honda Fit, for example

2) smaller vehicles have always had the weight and mass disadvantage in a crash vs a pickup truck. 30 years ago the GMT 400 was. A smaller truck than today's K2, but the Nissan Sentra was smaller than today's Sentra as well. As for everyone else driving "big ones", that's a choice. Always has been. Economy vehicles can be great choices, and they can even be loaded with excellent safety features, but yes, 6000 lbs vs 2000 lbs, 6k comes out the better.

3) cant see around you when all other vehicles are taller. True. Dont enter between and behind 3 big trucks if you dont have to, a little thoughtful, defensive driving can help - something lacking in many drivers repertoire today is the constant game of "what if..."

4) Subaru Brat jump seats: brought to you by the Chicken truck tax! sorry, but the Tacoma RULED the small and midsize truck segment for years and years. To the point that the pre-2016 Chevy Colorado was a veritable joke and the venerable Ford Ranger quit production and sales in the US altogether rather than compete.

Finally over the last iteration and the very latest ones, the Colorado and Ranger have finally made serious contenders

And as for larger, half tons? Toyota seems to do OK, but just OK. As far as I know, they dont offer an HD version of the Tundra in the states, which surprises me. And the Titan, which DID have an XD version, was ultimately beaten handily.

Yes, the beds in today's trucks are rarely used. Mine is driven daily but the bed is only used as a weekend warrior or a go-getter on the way home when Lady Beagle finds something of interest on the marketplace that needs picking up

But it's a choice. The bed may be for hockey or football practice equipment, bicycles, mulch, camping gear, but yeah.

When we logged in the early 80's, we had three guys crammed into a regular cab 2wd 8ft bed. What's wrong if seating is more comfortable?

Oddly, in my GMC Double Cab 1500, I cant even get the grandkids car seats in the back seat and expect any normal seating position for Lady Beagle or myself. Seems odd given the size of the truck
 

NevadaLover

Forking Icehole
You left out the fact that...
2) If you drive a small vehicle it's dangerous in a collision, when everyone else has big ones.
3) Can't see around you, when all the other vehicles are taller.

Once again, not everyone is so upset that their smaller vehicle isn't as big as other vehicles, chances are that most buyers of the smaller offerings have never even worried about such nonsense.
 

yamaha225

Active member
I’ll chime in just to throw in my vote for the Ridgeline. The J series V6 engine that Honda still uses in the Ridgeline has been in use for something like 25 years. It’s extremely smooth, torquey, and reliable. I have an Accord with the 3.0 liter version of the engine with 235,000 miles on it and it’s one of the best, if not the best motors I’ve ever owned.
 

rruff

Explorer
1) how does the EPA favor larger vehicles? Let's talk quarter ton and half ton pickups compared to everything down to the Honda Fit, for example

2) smaller vehicles have always had the weight and mass disadvantage in a crash vs a pickup truck.
The fatality rate for a mini car is ~7x higher than for a pickup. Typical cars are ~2x higher. SUVs are slightly better than pickups.

All of them have to meet the same standards for slamming into walls and things, but there can be a big difference when slamming into each other. Being low on the food chain is definitely risky.

Once again, not everyone is so upset that their smaller vehicle isn't as big as other vehicles, chances are that most buyers of the smaller offerings have never even worried about such nonsense.
"Not everyone"... so what? A lot of people do care about it, and buy larger vehicles for this reason.

3) cant see around you when all other vehicles are taller. True.
When in dense traffic in a car and your head height is below that of the hoods and windows of all the SUVs and pickups around you, it's a lot like being in a tunnel or walled in.

And as for larger, half tons? Toyota seems to do OK, but just OK.
They've been designed and built in the US for a long time, specifically for the US and Canada market, so not really an import.
 

NevadaLover

Forking Icehole
"Not everyone"... so what? A lot of people do care about it, and buy larger vehicles for this reason.

Well obviously the OP doesn't live in fear of being in a smaller vehicle surrounded by these dangerous larger vehicles, his original post and subsequent posts make no mention of larger vehicles being safe, he obviously is interested in a ridgeline or a maverick, not sure why you drag vehicle size concerns into every thread you can even though the OP's voice no such concerns.
 

Inyo_man

Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
In regards to a pop-up camper...
I would recommend looking at pop-up campers that are not "wedge" style.
Our Tacoma (long bed) has an Ovrlnd camper. It is light weight and the top deploys straight up, so you have plenty of room when getting in and out of bed. This also makes it nice to sit up in bed while reading.

Cheers
 

rruff

Explorer
Well obviously the OP doesn't live in fear of being in a smaller vehicle surrounded by these dangerous larger vehicles
Who said he did? I responded to his rant about how silly vehicles have become.

It would be a whole lot simpler if you wouldn't keep taking offense and making up BS when I state the obvious.

Man, I hope Ozarker comes back soon, so you can entertain yourself with him instead. :ROFLMAO:
 

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