Modding a Wrangler to Match Land Cruiser Reliability?

Lucky j

Explorer
Personal experience.

Had a toyota 93 pick up with the 22r. Must be wright with some of the previous afirmation about part durability, cause after a given time, all the parts started bracking down at the same time. Engin had been loosing coolant from almost the enfant years, but could not find it, head gasket was change was I took possession of it, timing chain, timing chain guide was also just gone, alternator, valve cover gasket leaked on the clutch and made it slip, rust, water infiltration on the fuse panel, brake line, all of them, gaz fuel line from the tank, other hole in the cabin metal, water pump, hand brake cable and parts. The truck was never off road and was still on the original size tire. Driven by my dad and later by me as dd and around to house duty.

Was the tird yota vehicule that I've touch and all of them got weird isues compared to the yj.

My jeep, a 95 yj 4,0l I6 manual as well, but driven off road for half its life, same milage, still going, couple of units bearing, water pump, radiator, some u joints a bit off rust, gaz pump. But is is still going, and way way easier to work on, and bigger tires that the toy ever saw.

So to me the toy was not more reliable, but mostly a pain to work on compare to the jeep.

A friend of mine modified is LC fj40 with bigger tire and bigger motor, had to change every mechanical component to gm and other, cause nothing was holding to the abuse. Incuding front and rear diff.

So to me, chose your poison. I stick with my jeep thing. By the way, the yj is still runing strong, but decided to put it in retierment to replace it with a TJ unlimited. Being in the rust belt, needed to go with a frame off to replace some of the boddy mount and frame support. No idea where the toy is now, was getting tired to work on it. And since it was my dd, needed more reliability.

So what can be done to a wrangler to make is as reliable as a land cruiser, good question, I'm not that good of a judge.

But from what I have heard, keep it as stock as possible, like a land cruiser. If you want to make it bigger, upgrade accordingly.
 
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toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
Personal experience.

Had a toyota 93 pick up with the 22r. Must be wright with some of the previous afirmation about part durability, cause after a given time, all the parts started bracking down at the same time. Engin had been loosing coolant from almost the enfant years, but could not find it, head gasket was change was I took possession of it, timing chain, timing chain guide was also just gone, alternator, valve cover gasket leaked on the clutch and made it slip, rust, water infiltration on the fuse panel, brake line, all of them, gaz fuel line from the tank, other hole in the cabin metal, water pump, hand brake cable and parts. The truck was never off road and was still on the original size tire. Driven by my dad and later by me as dd and around to house duty.

Was the tird yota vehicule that I've touch and all of them got weird isues compared to the yj.

My jeep, a 95 yj 4,0l I6 manual as well, but driven off road for half its life, same milage, still going, couple of units bearing, water pump, radiator, some u joints a bit off rust, gaz pump. But is is still going, and way way easier to work on, and bigger tires that the toy ever saw.

So to me the toy was not more reliable, but mostly a pain to work on compare to the jeep.

A friend of mine modified is LC fj40 with bigger tire and bigger motor, had to change every mechanical component to gm and other, cause nothing was holding to the abuse. Incuding front and rear diff.

So to me, chose your poison. I stick with my jeep thing. By the way, the yj is still runing strong, but decided to put it in retierment to replace it with a TJ unlimited. Being in the rust belt, needed to go with a frame off to replace some of the boddy mount and frame support. No idea where the toy is now, was getting tired to work on it. And since it was my dd, needed more reliability.

So what can be done to a wrangler to make is as reliable as a land cruiser, good question, I'm not that good of a judge.

But from what I have heard, keep it as stock as possible, like a land cruiser. If you want to make it bigger, upgrade accordingly.

I love internet stories. They are very entertaining.
 

Lucky j

Explorer
Indeed!

Specially since we all have a different vision and experience of reliability with the vehicule we choose to drive. I am sur that tehe exact oposit story was lived by somebody else. And more than likely you Toylandcruiser. ;)
 
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toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
I'm waiting for a jeep fan boy to claim he has a stock jku with 80" tires and beats the crap out of it with 14 million off-road miles and not a speck of rust. But he had a stock Toyota with 14" tires that was bought brand new and was constantly breaking the axles and tranny with it just sitting there. The head gasket went out and it was never ran. It was parked In a garage never exposed to the elements with 14 miles and it rusted into a pile of goo.
 

EugeneTheTJ

Tar Heel
What kind of Wrangler are we talking about here? A JK? Making it reliable is easy...just sell it and buy a 4.0 TJ.

13 year old TJ, no major issues. 16 year old XJ, rear main seal leak but over 200k and still runs strong.

Wife's JK? New camshaft required at 30k miles...

As for Toyota's, some are pretty cool I guess (Taco, 80, 100, 1st-3rd and 5th gen T4R). I just can't get past Pearl Harbor.
 

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
What kind of Wrangler are we talking about here? A JK? Making it reliable is easy...just sell it and buy a 4.0 TJ.

13 year old TJ, no major issues. 16 year old XJ, rear main seal leak but over 200k and still runs strong.

Wife's JK? New camshaft required at 30k miles...

As for Toyota's, some are pretty cool I guess (Taco, 80, 100, 1st-3rd and 5th gen T4R). I just can't get past Pearl Harbor.

Are you ok with German cars?
 

EugeneTheTJ

Tar Heel
No. American or no go. It absolutely baffles me when I see members of the greatest generation driving in such foreign cars.
 

Lucky j

Explorer
Wow, if you are asking this from a jeep owner or any vehicule owner, I will be on your side not beleiving him.

I had forgot to mentionne in my case that on my YJ, (knid of important to be fair) that when I went with 35" tire and full locker, had to go with bigger axle front and rear.

Like said before, in order to be reliable, improvement also as to be made to a jeep when going bigger.

I'm waiting for a jeep fan boy to claim he has a stock jku with 80" tires and beats the crap out of it with 14 million off-road miles and not a speck of rust. But he had a stock Toyota with 14" tires that was bought brand new and was constantly breaking the axles and tranny with it just sitting there. The head gasket went out and it was never ran. It was parked In a garage never exposed to the elements with 14 miles and it rusted into a pile of goo.
 

EugeneTheTJ

Tar Heel
Hmmm when your tj was made it was owned by Daimler.

That is true. XJ as well. But they were made in Toledo, Ohio by American hands.

I also know that a lot of Toyotas are made stateside but I just can't bring myself to buy one. My dad used to have a 3rd gen 4Runner and I liked it fine I just prefer the Jeeps of that same era.
 

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
That is true. XJ as well. But they were made in Toledo, Ohio by American hands.

I also know that a lot of Toyotas are made stateside but I just can't bring myself to buy one. My dad used to have a 3rd gen 4Runner and I liked it fine I just prefer the Jeeps of that same era.

Murica huh?
 

EugeneTheTJ

Tar Heel
Murica huh?

You know it
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