Modding a Wrangler to Match Land Cruiser Reliability?

[kojackJKU]

Must be toxins leaching from the plastic bags of milk. :Wow1:

None of those here, however I did see them at the grocery store in florida since I have been going there...

 

[kojackJKU]

Was just under my JK doing an oil change, 189,000 on the clock, NO RUST except on the skid plate where it has been visited by rocks. I know its not as awesome as the Toyota land schmoozer, hey if you (toyotalandcrusier) like internet legends and myths, the Toyota land schmoozer is the greatest of all time. Lots more bull**** flying around out there about them being the god vehicle....

 

[kojackJKU]

Personal experience.

Had a toyota 93 pick up with the 22r. Must be wright with some of the previous afirmation about part durability, cause after a given time, all the parts started bracking down at the same time. Engin had been loosing coolant from almost the enfant years, but could not find it, head gasket was change was I took possession of it, timing chain, timing chain guide was also just gone, alternator, valve cover gasket leaked on the clutch and made it slip, rust, water infiltration on the fuse panel, brake line, all of them, gaz fuel line from the tank, other hole in the cabin metal, water pump, hand brake cable and parts. The truck was never off road and was still on the original size tire. Driven by my dad and later by me as dd and around to house duty.

Was the tird yota vehicule that I've touch and all of them got weird isues compared to the yj.

My jeep, a 95 yj 4,0l I6 manual as well, but driven off road for half its life, same milage, still going, couple of units bearing, water pump, radiator, some u joints a bit off rust, gaz pump. But is is still going, and way way easier to work on, and bigger tires that the toy ever saw.

So to me the toy was not more reliable, but mostly a pain to work on compare to the jeep.

A friend of mine modified is LC fj40 with bigger tire and bigger motor, had to change every mechanical component to gm and other, cause nothing was holding to the abuse. Incuding front and rear diff.

So to me, chose your poison. I stick with my jeep thing. By the way, the yj is still runing strong, but decided to put it in retierment to replace it with a TJ unlimited. Being in the rust belt, needed to go with a frame off to replace some of the boddy mount and frame support. No idea where the toy is now, was getting tired to work on it. And since it was my dd, needed more reliability.

So what can be done to a wrangler to make is as reliable as a land cruiser, good question, I'm not that good of a judge.

But from what I have heard, keep it as stock as possible, like a land cruiser. If you want to make it bigger, upgrade accordingly.

TO answer your question about the wrangler. NOTHING. all the land crusier owners are trying to add stuff to make them as capable as the JK....

 

[EugeneTheTJ]

Does your jeep have a flat head 4 that makes 40 hp. Does it have a 3 speed? Or a gear drive tcase? Does it have ff axle? No. So it's not really like the Willis at all.

Does it have solid axles front and rear? Yes
Does it have an open cab design that allows for no top, doors, or windshield? Yes
Is it relatively simple and not overly ridden with electrical crap that breaks when you need it most (or you find out it is broken when you do need it most)? Yes
Is its engine known for being a workhorse? Yes
Can it drive circles around Toyotas offroad? Yes

Looks pretty similar to me.

I'd also like to point out that LC's wouldn't even exist if the Japanese engineers didn't rip the design and mechanics from the Bantam Jeep.

 

[toylandcruiser]

Does it have solid axles front and rear? Yes
Does it have an open cab design that allows for no top, doors, or windshield? Yes
Is it relatively simple and not overly ridden with electrical crap that breaks when you need it most (or you find out it is broken when you do need it most)? Yes
Is its engine known for being a workhorse? Yes
Can it drive circles around Toyotas offroad? Yes

Looks pretty similar to me.

Hahahahahahah. That actually made me lol.

 

[mtbxj87]

Toylandcruiser, you're in a jeep sub-forum. We like our jeeps. You're not going to convince us to unlike them by being a troll. I am in bias, fyi. I like older Toyotas and older jeeps. Others feel the same way. Everyone here needs to get in their rigs, jeep or toy, find a trail and get lost for a minute.

 

[toylandcruiser]

Toylandcruiser, you're in a jeep sub-forum. We like our jeeps. You're not going to convince us to unlike them by being a troll. I am in bias, fyi. I like older Toyotas and older jeeps. Others feel the same way. Everyone here needs to get in their rigs, jeep or toy, find a trail and get lost for a minute.

Because I'm not a jeep fan. I'm not allowed to participate? You better keep your jeep boys in this sub forum then. Tell them not to go into the cruiser part and "troll".

 

[mtbxj87]

Wow.. How old are you?

 

[kojackJKU]

Because I'm not a jeep fan. I'm not allowed to participate? You better keep your jeep boys in this sub forum then. Tell them not to go into the cruiser part and "troll".

Got to love the children in here. you say something contradicting them they run and cry. wahhhh. Maybe all of us Jeep fans should invade the Toyota section. But wait we are way more mature than that. Go back to your sand box. Your name is correct though, your land crusier is just a toy! Come back in a jeep if you want to play in the big boy yard.

 

[toylandcruiser]

Wow.. How old are you?

Not sure what relevance that has to do with anything.

 

[toylandcruiser]

Got to love the children in here. you say something contradicting them they run and cry. wahhhh. Maybe all of us Jeep fans should invade the Toyota section. But wait we are way more mature than that. Go back to your sand box. Your name is correct though, your land crusier is just a toy! Come back in a jeep if you want to play in the big boy yard.

You my friend do not act like an adult. I think you need to practice what you preach.

 

[Grasslakeron]

When your land cruiser does this, with stock parts (hay x Ped boys), then come tell me.

https://youtu.be/Y0mJ4HXMHvQ

 

[toylandcruiser]

When your land cruiser does this, with stock parts (hay x Ped boys), then come tell me.

https://youtu.be/Y0mJ4HXMHvQ

What's difficult about that?

 

[Grasslakeron]

Doesn't mean it ever moved.

 

[Scott Brady]

I always laugh at debates like this. I have owned tons of Jeeps and tons of Land Cruisers.

A JK Rubicon Unlimited is more capable in stock form than any Land Cruiser ever made - that is just a fact and easily supported with even a pedestrian review of specifications and design.
A Land Cruiser is more durable than any Wrangler ever sold in the US (J8 excluded)- this is just a fact.

Try to take a stock 80 series and a stock JK Rubicon across the Rubicon trail and see how they both look at the other end.
Try to load a JK with 2,000 pounds and an 80 series with 2,000 pounds and drive them the length of Australia off-highway and see how they both work at the other end.

The uninitiated like to compare these two vehicles, but they are produced with entirely different functional specifications. Land Cruisers are primarily designed for durability and reliability in extreme conditions, even at the cost of performance. Jeeps are designed for consumer use and trail performance, at the cost of durability.

Enjoy them for what they are, and for their differences.