Modding a Wrangler to Match Land Cruiser Reliability?
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EugeneTheTJ
Tar Heel
Upper class toy
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
So you're hating on someone that can afford it because you can't? Haterz gunna hate I guess.
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
I can buy a 70 series diesel with locking axles for around 10 grand.
EugeneTheTJ
Tar Heel
Or you can build up your own vehicle, know how it works, and have something more capable. All for far less money.
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
To each his own?
EugeneTheTJ
Tar Heel
That is what I've said the whole time!!! Toyotas are what they are. I personally think there are better options therefore that is what I choose.
If someone wants to spend the cost of a small house on a vehicle that is their own prerogative. Everyone has the right to be foolish.
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
Yea, foolish purchasing an inferior jeep
You haven't been saying that the whole time. You tried hard to discredit cruisers and have failed. Now you claim to each his own.you started with Pearl Harbor then ended with too much money.
EugeneTheTJ
Tar Heel
Yea, foolish purchasing an inferior jeep
You haven't been saying that the whole time. You tried hard to discredit cruisers and have failed. Now you claim to each his own.you started with Pearl Harbor then ended with too much money.
The only flaws I have pointed out are that (1) they're obnoxiously expensive, (2) Jeeps are better offroad, and (3) they wouldn't exist had the Japanese not stumbled upon a Bantam Jeep and ripped it off. None are really discrediting, they're just facts. At the get go I said some Yotas are cool I just wouldn't buy one.
I'm done responding to this because it is getting ridiculous.
Viggen
Just here...
Where? That is a deal and a half assuming it runs, is not beat to ****, and is not a rusty pile. No 70 series diesel I have ever seen for $10k matches up with those. Now, for $10k, I can buy a clean, ~130k mile LJ and easily bolt on stuff.
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
You're knowledge of the history of land cruisers is ignorant. But oh well. I'll never own a vehicle that has been bailed out with tax payer money. Once they were bailed out I lost all respect for American companies. And yes ford received 4 billion dollars from the gov. Once again, your knowledge of land cruisers is very ignorant. All you know is what you read on forums. You have never actually researched it. Reliability > "better off road" although It would be hard pressed to believe a jeep would go places any Toyota wouldn't be able to. I agree you all are getting ridiculous. Have fun in your jeep. Maybe we'll meet on the trail when youve broken down and I'll have to tow you out. I'm not too big of a man to help someone out.
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
as long as it's 25 years or older you can import it.twiisted71
Adventurer
Check out the link
http://www.messynessychic.com/2015/...-loaded-with-everything-but-the-kitchen-sink/
There are many videos and other sites documenting this stuff, along with stories galore about how these were used "back in the day".
I know I'm uber old-fashioned and hate new vehicles (pretty much anything after 1986) due to the electronics. That is why I didn't know the LC was still offered (essentially an up optioned Sequoia). To me its just a foreign badged Tahoe or Expedition. I love the squared off old looking LC and was green with envy when I went to Guatemala a few yrs back. EVERYthing was offered in a diesel--a mechanical diesel!!!
Just think about having Jeep offer a stripped 2 door Wrangler with a 3.xL mech 4 cyl diesel, 6 speed, 3:1 TC that can be flat towed, and real D44s with lockable hubs and OX lockers front and rear. 30+ mpgs, 250tq at anything above 1200 rpms, nothing electronic to fail that could halt the vehicles ability to function, no carb to flood when on severe angles. To me that would be how to make ANY vehicle, not just a Wrangler, the ultimate in reliability. Anything from a Samurai to a 4 door dually F350 could be accommodated with mech diesels from 1.6 VWs, 3.0L Benzs, to International DT360s or Cummins 6BTs or better still an Isuzu 6BD1T. As much as people flocked to the JKs despite their price$ and wide spread failures and perceived lack of power, this recipe should be a goldmine for any maker who would produce it today and offer it under $25K.
http://www.messynessychic.com/2015/...-loaded-with-everything-but-the-kitchen-sink/
There are many videos and other sites documenting this stuff, along with stories galore about how these were used "back in the day".
I know I'm uber old-fashioned and hate new vehicles (pretty much anything after 1986) due to the electronics. That is why I didn't know the LC was still offered (essentially an up optioned Sequoia). To me its just a foreign badged Tahoe or Expedition. I love the squared off old looking LC and was green with envy when I went to Guatemala a few yrs back. EVERYthing was offered in a diesel--a mechanical diesel!!!
Just think about having Jeep offer a stripped 2 door Wrangler with a 3.xL mech 4 cyl diesel, 6 speed, 3:1 TC that can be flat towed, and real D44s with lockable hubs and OX lockers front and rear. 30+ mpgs, 250tq at anything above 1200 rpms, nothing electronic to fail that could halt the vehicles ability to function, no carb to flood when on severe angles. To me that would be how to make ANY vehicle, not just a Wrangler, the ultimate in reliability. Anything from a Samurai to a 4 door dually F350 could be accommodated with mech diesels from 1.6 VWs, 3.0L Benzs, to International DT360s or Cummins 6BTs or better still an Isuzu 6BD1T. As much as people flocked to the JKs despite their price$ and wide spread failures and perceived lack of power, this recipe should be a goldmine for any maker who would produce it today and offer it under $25K.
toylandcruiser
Expedition Leader
The 200 series isn't an optioned sequoia. They are two totally different vehicles. FYI. There are computers in cars and trucks from the 70s on.
Lucky j
Explorer
M. Brady, I'm also curious about this, and I'm not trying to trick you.
I guess that base on the wright part between the two, what mechanical component should be improved or up-graded to a JK to make is as reliable as a LC offered here in north america.
The Jk would have to be a Rubicon, since it is the most heavy duty jk available as we speak, and I do not know about the LC, since they have not been really available here in canada.
In the best of worlds, it as to be possible (theoricaly) to up-grade the JK with those North american LC parts. But I would want to keep the possibility to fully open the top, so the tub as to stay.
So Diff, t-case, tranny, engine, frame , suspension, wheels etc can be swap with 2013-2016 parts from the north american LC and what Payload can we expect.
And please, no BS from haters.
I guess that base on the wright part between the two, what mechanical component should be improved or up-graded to a JK to make is as reliable as a LC offered here in north america.
The Jk would have to be a Rubicon, since it is the most heavy duty jk available as we speak, and I do not know about the LC, since they have not been really available here in canada.
In the best of worlds, it as to be possible (theoricaly) to up-grade the JK with those North american LC parts. But I would want to keep the possibility to fully open the top, so the tub as to stay.
So Diff, t-case, tranny, engine, frame , suspension, wheels etc can be swap with 2013-2016 parts from the north american LC and what Payload can we expect.
And please, no BS from haters.