Modding a Wrangler to Match Land Cruiser Reliability?

[mtbxj87]

^truth. Thank you Brady, that was getting out of hand

 

[locrwln]

I always laugh at debates like this. I have owned tons of Jeeps and tons of Land Cruisers.

A JK Rubicon Unlimited is more capable in stock form than any Land Cruiser ever made - that is just a fact and easily supported with even a pedestrian review of specifications and design.
A Land Cruiser is more durable than any Wrangler ever sold in the US (J8 excluded)- this is just a fact.

Try to take a stock 80 series and a stock JK Rubicon across the Rubicon trail and see how they both look at the other end.
Try to load a JK with 2,000 pounds and an 80 series with 2,000 pounds and drive them the length of Australia off-highway and see how they both work at the other end.

The uninitiated like to compare these two vehicles, but they are produced with entirely different functional specifications. Land Cruisers are primarily designed for durability and reliability in extreme conditions, even at the cost of performance. Jeeps are designed for consumer use and trail performance, at the cost of durability.

Enjoy them for what they are, and for their differences.

I too have owned both (multiples) and agree whole heartedly. Where is the "like" button.

Jack

 

[scottman]

Or, do what I did and buy one of each. Best of both worlds...

 

[Dan Grec]

....Land Cruisers are primarily designed for durability and reliability in extreme conditions, even at the cost of performance. Jeeps are designed for consumer use and trail performance, at the cost of durability

Which brings us back full circle to the thread title:

How does one modify the JKU to bring it closer in terms of durability and reliability to the Land Cruiser?

-Dan

 

[Grasslakeron]

Which brings us back full circle to the thread title:

How does one modify the JKU to bring it closer in terms of durability and reliability to the Land Cruiser?

-Dan

Full circle is, it started out after ww2 as a jeep knock off.....spent it's whole life as a jeep knock off, and now is a upper class toy......

A jeep is, and will be a jeep.

 

[EugeneTheTJ]

Preach brother

 

[Scott Brady]

Full circle is, it started out after ww2 as a jeep knock off.....spent it's whole life as a jeep knock off, and now is a upper class toy......

Upper class toy?

 

[Scott Brady]

Which brings us back full circle to the thread title:

How does one modify the JKU to bring it closer in terms of durability and reliability to the Land Cruiser?

-Dan

Dan,

Unfiltered response is two fold

1. With a JK, it is critical to pack light. Sticking to GVWR will ensure the best chance for surviving you lap around Africa
2. I have found the JK to be very reliable and durable, our trips including all the way to Panama and 12 runs across the Rubicon trail

I would not hesitate to drive a lightly loaded JK around the world, it is just important to note that a JK has less than 40% of the payload capacity of a 70 series TLC.

Land Cruisers are engineered to last 500,000 miles, fully loaded in the developing world. They are small commercial trucks.

 

[toylandcruiser]

Full circle is, it started out after ww2 as a jeep knock off.....spent it's whole life as a jeep knock off, and now is a upper class toy......

A jeep is, and will be a jeep.

Oh boy and here we go again.

 

[EugeneTheTJ]

Upper class toy?

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That isn't the typical LC found at Toyota lots in the US. This is:

 

[toylandcruiser]

That isn't the typical LC found at Toyota lots in the US. This is:

So?

 

[EugeneTheTJ]

So?

That is what was being referred to as an "upper class toy." That would be the equivalent of you saying Jeeps suck and holding up a Compass as evidence.

 

[Viggen]

Upper class toy?

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Poor choice. You might not have had to buy them but this: Troop Carrier Workmate 4.5-litre turbodiesel five-door wagon: $65,790 AUD (manual) is the cost. Converted, that stripped out wagon is about $46,000. No accessories. No options. That lands it firmly in the play thing category.

 

[toylandcruiser]

That is what was being referred to as an "upper class toy." That would be the equivalent of you saying Jeeps suck and holding up a Compass as evidence.

The 209 series has been on the rubicon Moab, Imperial Valley Dunes, Katemcy Rocks, Barnwell Mountain, and numerous times to Hidden Falls in TX (lvl 4 and 5 trails for those who've been there).

 

[EugeneTheTJ]

The 209 series has been on the rubicon Moab, Imperial Valley Dunes, Katemcy Rocks, Barnwell Mountain, and numerous times to Hidden Falls in TX (lvl 4 and 5 trails for those who've been there).

So? It also costs like 90k.