Mr. Leary's 80 Series
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Unless the Mrs is an amazon, she will have an easier time with the 33s. I would also add the slee step sliders or a comparable homebrew slider system. The pulling to the right may just be tire pressure. If you don't have birf soup, there is no reason to tear everything apart. Just add grease through the fill hole and adjust the preload on the bearings.
The factory lockers can be finicky without regular use. Just turn the dial all the way and do figure 8s for 10 min, they will likely engage as long as the center is locking. Just remember, no center lock=no axle lock unless you get creative.
Doing an axle service and doing a regear are two completely different animals. Also, since you have the factory lockers, aftermarket gears are harder to find and more expensive.
I would stick with 33s, 285 or 305s with a 255 as a spare. Unless you will be installing a bumper with a tire carrier, you will want to retain the ability to keep the spare in the stock location. Putting a 35 inside takes up a lot of room and it is a lot of weight to throw up on the rack. (COG issues+having to lift it up there) The 255 spare is a lot easier to handle and is skinnier to increase clearance.
I have 5 critters of my own so I feel your pain, but the third row isn't really necessary, and you could build a sleeping platform back there for the you and the wife or the kiddos. (A queen size air bed fits perfectly.)
I would go with OME Heavies due to the planned front and rear bumper/winch/rack etc.
FWIW, my rig has TJM heavies, slee sliders/skid plates, ARB, smallish rack and 285s so I may be partial to that particular build. I wheeled a couple times with guys on 35s and was able to get through everything they did--it was just harder. For Expedition wheeling, it won't be an issue---many, many, many 80s have done moab on 33s.
As for the winch, I am a cheap bastard and will be going with the HF/Chicago electric or the cheap costco winch. Milemarkers are not bad, but they are not much better (if any, depending on model) than the cheapo winches.
The factory lockers can be finicky without regular use. Just turn the dial all the way and do figure 8s for 10 min, they will likely engage as long as the center is locking. Just remember, no center lock=no axle lock unless you get creative.
Doing an axle service and doing a regear are two completely different animals. Also, since you have the factory lockers, aftermarket gears are harder to find and more expensive.
I would stick with 33s, 285 or 305s with a 255 as a spare. Unless you will be installing a bumper with a tire carrier, you will want to retain the ability to keep the spare in the stock location. Putting a 35 inside takes up a lot of room and it is a lot of weight to throw up on the rack. (COG issues+having to lift it up there) The 255 spare is a lot easier to handle and is skinnier to increase clearance.
I have 5 critters of my own so I feel your pain, but the third row isn't really necessary, and you could build a sleeping platform back there for the you and the wife or the kiddos. (A queen size air bed fits perfectly.)
I would go with OME Heavies due to the planned front and rear bumper/winch/rack etc.
FWIW, my rig has TJM heavies, slee sliders/skid plates, ARB, smallish rack and 285s so I may be partial to that particular build. I wheeled a couple times with guys on 35s and was able to get through everything they did--it was just harder. For Expedition wheeling, it won't be an issue---many, many, many 80s have done moab on 33s.
As for the winch, I am a cheap bastard and will be going with the HF/Chicago electric or the cheap costco winch. Milemarkers are not bad, but they are not much better (if any, depending on model) than the cheapo winches.
john101477
Photographer in the Wild
Hey Mr Leary - I have never seen the interior of am 80 if you could post some pics of the inside including rear cargo and thrid row seats that would be cool. Right now we are debating the 80 and a pickup such as a 4 door taco or even a 1gen tundra.
Mr. Leary
Glamping Excursionaire
Sure... but you'll have to wait until next week. We are off to south Texas this evening after work.
john101477
Photographer in the Wild
nice!!! have fun
Mr. Leary
Glamping Excursionaire
Can anyone fill me in on 285/75/R16s?
I would like to know if I will have to regear. Not having to regear would be a big plus for me, and maybe I can retain some semblence of fuel economy. The_Mrs. likes how much power it has compared to our 4Runner, and I don't want it to be too much of a pig. I plan on adding a winch bumper, slider steps, and a rear bumper, roof rack, and possibly extra fuel capacity.
John, I haven't forgotten about you. I have not seen the truck during daylight hours for a couple weeks. I get you the interior pics soon. Are there any particular areas that you want photos of...?
I would like to know if I will have to regear. Not having to regear would be a big plus for me, and maybe I can retain some semblence of fuel economy. The_Mrs. likes how much power it has compared to our 4Runner, and I don't want it to be too much of a pig. I plan on adding a winch bumper, slider steps, and a rear bumper, roof rack, and possibly extra fuel capacity.
John, I haven't forgotten about you. I have not seen the truck during daylight hours for a couple weeks. I get you the interior pics soon. Are there any particular areas that you want photos of...?
preacherman
Explorer
I would stick with the 285 if you are going to add that much weight to your truck. I have an ARB w warn, sliders, and a custom rear bumper and it adds about 5-600 pounds. It would seem to me a stock gear with a bigger tire might just get by but a truck outfitted with 600 more pounds of gear and stock gears will suffer with a larger tire.
Like I said, I run the 285s on stock gears and I use the 80 for a bad weather commuter on I95 in Northern VA. It gets down the road just fine. You will have a rear bumper/tire carrier and a sub tank for extra weight, but you should be just fine. You might take a look at the 255s as well as they have the same height as the 285s, but less weight due to being skinnier. They also look nice on an 80.
You can bump your performance a bit by advancing your timing ~7 degrees as well. Theat will help offset the extra weight. Mud has this info, but it isn't rocket surgery.
I have the slider steps and highly recommend them...FWIW.
Dan
You can bump your performance a bit by advancing your timing ~7 degrees as well. Theat will help offset the extra weight. Mud has this info, but it isn't rocket surgery.
I have the slider steps and highly recommend them...FWIW.
Dan
Guambomb
Adventurer
I had 33's on my old Cruiser with an OME lift with no regear. Hardly noticed any difference in accleration but didn't have much time to do any fuel economy tests though. (sold it a few months after building it up). I say, get some OME springs and put some 33's on it. There's quite a few guys on mud running 35's without a regear and are having no regrets. I like my 4:88's on the 35's but I'd honestly say you will be fine on 33's without a regear. I had OME 850 on the front and 864 on the back. the 864's really raise up the back end and would be ideal if you're wanting to add a reserve tank later. I probably should have added 2 inch spring spacers on front to level it out like the current owner did. I'll post a pic of when I had it and a link to the current owners pics to give you an idea of how it sits. Can't wait to see your rig on our next trip! Here's my old rig:
33's x 12.5
Current owner's pics: (view album to see exterior shots)
http://share.shutterfly.com/share/r...tWjhozYsaI&imageIndex=14&fid=2ce7de3a06b67c66
33's x 12.5
Current owner's pics: (view album to see exterior shots)
http://share.shutterfly.com/share/r...tWjhozYsaI&imageIndex=14&fid=2ce7de3a06b67c66
Mike S
Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
Pre-'96 cruisers are PARTIALLY OBDII compliant - they did not implement the total compliant system unitl the '96 model year - which began sometime in '95 I expect.
Head gaskets - the urban legend says that when you buy an FZJ80 it comes with a head gasket failure built-in. Ain't so. There HAVE been failures, of course, but not to the extent that many posters on this board seem to assume.
I have seen, ridden in and driven 80s with well over 400K miles. Ran fine. Didn't always look cherry, but they ran.
Pskhaat
2005 Expedition Trophy Champion
Guambomb, looks like you had the very rare green color?
Bought mine (1996) nearly brand-new, babied it with Mobil1 and yearly radiator flushes. HG replacement at about 70k miles, best truck I've ever owned but it gets me all shades of mad at Toyota about said HG.
Bought mine (1996) nearly brand-new, babied it with Mobil1 and yearly radiator flushes. HG replacement at about 70k miles, best truck I've ever owned but it gets me all shades of mad at Toyota about said HG.
Mr. Leary
Glamping Excursionaire
Well I have started shopping for tires. I am looking at BFG A/T KO and Bridgestone Dueller A/T Revo, both in 285/75/R16. I will be getting 5 tires, including the spare. I have had wonderful experience with the Revos in the past, but like the prospect of the additional traction offered by the BFGs.
A question pertaining to my future build plans:
Should I go for an aftermarket rear bumper with integrated or just get a hitch installed?
A question pertaining to my future build plans:
Should I go for an aftermarket rear bumper with integrated or just get a hitch installed?
Mr. Leary
Glamping Excursionaire
The_Mrs. has been driving the Cruiser for a while, so I didn't notice that it leans to the driver side. The front driver side is 1.5" lower than the passenger side. 
I guess the new suspension will be going on more quickly than expected...
OME heavies. 2" lift. I can use my work discount for tires, which will help.
After all, its ONLY money... :smilies27
I guess the new suspension will be going on more quickly than expected...
OME heavies. 2" lift. I can use my work discount for tires, which will help.
After all, its ONLY money... :smilies27