My honest 2011 Toyota 4runner review
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maxama10
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Just for the record I think your facts seemed more like opinions.
... and like I said the issues you have in your review seem so minor that I think no one is taking it seriously. It's not that we don't acknowledge that there may be 'real' issues but it's that we expect these kinds of things, with most vehicles. They're easily addressed and typical, and I think that is why you are getting so much negative feedback to your review.
Edit: I'm not trying to be a ******** but I guess I just think maybe your expectations are a bit high.
... and like I said the issues you have in your review seem so minor that I think no one is taking it seriously. It's not that we don't acknowledge that there may be 'real' issues but it's that we expect these kinds of things, with most vehicles. They're easily addressed and typical, and I think that is why you are getting so much negative feedback to your review.
Edit: I'm not trying to be a ******** but I guess I just think maybe your expectations are a bit high.
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JJMAC, facts?....... what facts???
As stated above, you gave us opinions.
If you want to give us an "honest review" of YOUR 2011 4-Runner then give us FACTS we can use. As it stands your review is worthless. Nobody knows just how much weight it took to get the car to sag like that and consequently they/we have no useable info to use as a guide to see if it will work for their/our needs.
Motor Trend and Road & Track use the track, a dyno and a scale to give us FACTS that can be used and compared in a review.
How much weight and where would be a good start. If we have numbers (FACTS) to work with then it can be said that the sag was too much. Otherwise, like maxama10 said, it's just YOUR opinion......
YMMV RON
Could have Icon build something similar with US Spec parts....of course it falls out of the "stock straight from the factory category" though. :ylsmoke:
Who is Oxi, if you don't mind me asking?
Man you guys are rough on each other!:Wow1:
Sorry about the horse's rear end comment...
PirateMcGee
Expedition Leader
x2 that thing is rad
zidaro
Explorer
Thought i would add some FACT/Tech to this thread:
Clearance of the trailer plug. 2" above spare tires lowest point. Well concealed and nowhere near striking distance for any normal trail unless you are DROPPING your rear on ledges or rocks. I couldnt "scrape" this off on a road if i tried.
2 bright tailgate camp lights, they light the cargo area ok for locating items, reading labels is possible, but a novel might give ya sore eyes- though LED would make these better
Clearance of the trailer plug. 2" above spare tires lowest point. Well concealed and nowhere near striking distance for any normal trail unless you are DROPPING your rear on ledges or rocks. I couldnt "scrape" this off on a road if i tried.
2 bright tailgate camp lights, they light the cargo area ok for locating items, reading labels is possible, but a novel might give ya sore eyes- though LED would make these better
TLC Build.
Scroll down after you click on link.
http://northwestoverlandsociety.org...rumid/31/postid/59997/view/topic/Default.aspx
Could they make it harder to get to?:ylsmoke:
Exactly.
Fact #300:
Those that think it doesnt catch have never towed a camper off road with it.
Fact 301: Its not the outlet that ripped off boys. It was actually the wiring harness.
Fact 302: The outlet is too far away from the hitch requiring a long harness. It is to far to the left so that when the TV is taking a right turn you better have extra length in your harness to compensate. This extra length in the harness almost drags along the ground when the TV is straight. Its terrible.
Fact:
This is my 2007 Frontier with the exact same setup. Same camping gear except for one thing. The truck is holding WAY MORE than it should because we were moving cross country. There is a 500 lb safe in the bed with guns and about 100lbs of ammo as well as bikes and a ship ton of other gear to include a full size ladder, a hydrolic lift, 3 rubbermaid bins filled with crap and 4 jack stands.
Not nearly the rear sag of the 4runner.
I am also going to take Jimmyboys advise and change my signature as he requested.....
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Holy moses you guys are amazing! Lets try this again.
Fact: No driver controlled dome light.
Fact: No third row dome light.
Fact: Poor cargo lighting for nightly outdoor access to items stored.
Fact: My Harness ripped from the socket on a forest road.
Fact: Engine is not as responsive as my old Nissan Frontier.
Fact: The rear sagged terribly when I went camping with the same equipment (minus over 600 lbs of other crap) in the picture above.
Fact: The engine screams going up mountain grades. My Frontier did not.
Opinion: Radio is subpar
Opinion: Car is more a grocery getter than an offroad vehicle (stock)
Opinion: Air conditioning is lacking (I give this a pass because its a black car in AZ)
One last fact: You guys love Toyotas so much you can't see the truth.
And your facts please? How bought Jimmy? Where are his?
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NorCalBorn
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*OK, sorry JJMAC, but now I'll add a disagreement point instead..
How can you compare the factory 4Runner in the original post fairly against a Double Cab Short Bed NISMO with upped spec and leaf springs? Now if you want apples to apples try at the very least a Trail Edition spec which I don't think yours is.
Moving on..
How can you compare the factory 4Runner in the original post fairly against a Double Cab Short Bed NISMO with upped spec and leaf springs? Now if you want apples to apples try at the very least a Trail Edition spec which I don't think yours is.
Moving on..
PirateMcGee
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agreed, you are missing the fact that this is a SUV with coils made for comfort not a truck with leafs made for hauling
btw I appreciate the our review, I know you didn't have to post it and appreciate you taking the time to respond and originally post. We are not being brand blind so stop saying that. We would have the same issues if you were talking about a explorer or xterra.......
at the very least it's given us something to BS about:ylsmoke:
btw I appreciate the our review, I know you didn't have to post it and appreciate you taking the time to respond and originally post. We are not being brand blind so stop saying that. We would have the same issues if you were talking about a explorer or xterra.......
at the very least it's given us something to BS about:ylsmoke:
PirateMcGee
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just curious......why did you sell the frontier? I've always like the 4doors one, the styling is much better than the current taco IMHO