My New (AEV) American Expedition Vehicles Jeep!!

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
Yes- If the jeep is built by AEV or modified before being sold as a new truck, the AEV items and conversions are covered if done by an authorized AEV sanctioned/Jeep Dealer.
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Warrantied by the factory or the selling dealership though?
MOPAR parts carry their own warranty that's separate from Jeep's warranty usually; I'd expect the same from AEV parts.
That's how the COD package's extras are going anyhoo.



This thread is not about 2011 vs 2012.......we could spend hours talking that and I think it has been beat to death.
The question begs to be asked when there's such a difference and the new Jeeper has bought 2 at the same time...

Swiss and I have each spent 3 years in a 3.8L-equipped JK. I agree with him that the Pentastar is worth the premium.
Not knocking Dendy's choice ---- he's my buddy and I support him and hope he'll be happy. It's got to be better than a Land Rover at least... :smiley_drive:
 
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Dendy Jarrett

Expedition Portal Admin
Staff member
The new correct Gear Seat Covers went on today. While I love the simple style of the Escape Gear. These Smitty Built G.E.A.R with all the removable pouches, built in trash bins, etc are just tremendous! I'll post pictures. Would have today, but it gets dark around here at like 4:10! I hate these time changes!
 

Rovertrader

Supporting Sponsor
He's my buddy and I support him and hope he'll be happy. It's got to be better than a Land Rover at least... :smiley_drive:[/QUOTE]

Bill- funny thing is you are pretty much spot on power wise. We have lived with 180hp for so long, the 3.8 is still an improvement, albeit V-6 vs V-8...
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
Bill- funny thing is you are pretty much spot on power wise. We have lived with 180hp for so long, the 3.8 is still an improvement, albeit V-6 vs V-8...
:ylsmoke:
Frankly, I don't know how you boys dealt with it for so long.

Have you tried to tow with the new JK yet? On hills? On hilly highways?
I couldn't get mine to keep 65 mph with the Conqueror, 4.56 gears, 33s.
They're not impossible but certainly not the degree of ease of the PW.
 

Rovertrader

Supporting Sponsor
Love is blind I suppose... And my PW went from 33s/4.56s factory to 37s/4.56s and still had plenty of power to smoke tires or pull 10k# up the mtn to Ashesville, hence my secret desire for a Hemi transplant, or preferably a diesel even if it is the 4BT...

And I like the new nickname- hope it sticks ;-)
 

sseaman

Adventurer
Dendy, I was suprised to see your change but completely understand, it is the reason I stay with our Sequoia everytime I think of oing back to an older Land Cruiser. We need to get out an explore sometime.
 

The Swiss

Expedition Leader
This thread is not about 2011 vs 2012.......we could spend hours talking that and I think it has been beat to death.

Dendy is a valued member of this forum and has made the jump to Jeep from a long history of LR.

Lets welcome him and his awesome AEV ride.

I wish I could paint my CRD that Tan color.....
Because Dendy is a valued and savy member of the portal :bowdown:, I was interested in his motivation to go with the 2011.

BTW I disagree with you that the discussion 2011 vs 2012 has been beaten to death. Yes, there has been a lot of posting, but mostly a lot of opinionated opinions and so far very few facts and real world experience comparing the two.

Happy Thanksgivings :wavey:
 

Dendy Jarrett

Expedition Portal Admin
Staff member
Hey, Michael: You are right to ask.
Most folks forget- We are stepping up in HP from the 1995 Disco when going to the 2011, so it was an improvement in HP and 16 year newer technology to boot.
The tech at the dealership that I purchased the AEV from, stated that while the Penstar is proven in some other Chrysler products and has done well, ... there are a couple of other Chrysler products where it has not done well at all.
The general feeling is that the 2011 motor is the tried and true and any fixes with it are "known" verses the unknowns of the successes of the new.

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MOAdventurer

New member
Hey Dendy,
I'm new to the forum and been lurking around for awhile. I've owned many Jeeps from XJ Cherokees to old Wranglers. I'm looking at purchasing a JKU after the first of the year. I would like to buy an AEV Rubicon but after seeing your JKU I'm thinking of purchasing a sport that has been outfitted by AEV from a dealer not far from me. To get to the point I wanted to know your opinion on buying an AEV sport and slowy upgrading the axles, transfer case, etc. Or having a Rubicon version built. The sport is definitley less expensive initially but my thought was I would be further ahead building a Rubicon. Is there any advantage/savings upgrading a sport vs. building a Rubicon with AEV? Is installing a new transfer case needed in the sport? My XJ is perfectly capable for what I do close to home but I would like to get out and explore the West with my family. I'm not into rock climbing but would eventually like to hit the Rubicon Trail someday. Is an AEV sport capable of running the Rubicon? Your or anyone elses input is much appreciated.
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
"This started on an odd move. My wife had a G4 2008 LR3 competition truck which she hated. She said it was big, lumbering, and she hated the graphics. I told her she could drive anything she wanted. She chose a 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon in Natural Green. SHE LOVES IT."

Translation your wife hated the graphics/looks so she made things up to make herself not sound crazy... Calling an LR3 (a truck I have NO love for) "lumbering and huge" and then loving a JKU is pretty bass-ackwards IMO. Glad she likes it but...

Your AEV rig is just plain KILLER looking, now go get it dirty so it'll stop looking like a show truck ;) Does it still have the "old" new motor or is it one of the new 3.6-Penta motors???

Cheers

Dave

Edit: never mind, I see the answer to my quesrion now... Bummer.
 
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4Rescue

Expedition Leader
...The tech at the dealership that I purchased the AEV from, stated that while the Penstar is proven in some other Chrysler products and has done well, ... there are a couple of other Chrysler products where it has not done well at all.
The general feeling is that the 2011 motor is the tried and true and any fixes with it are "known" verses the unknowns of the successes of the new.

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That "tech" is confused... The old 3.8 isn't an "unreliable motor" it just has ZERO place in a truck or anything outside of mini-van or a commuter car. The "tried and true" part of it is that it makes abismal power in a terrible range for a heavy non-aerodynamic vehicle. The New motor is a revelation to the JK/U and anyone telling you otherwise is coddling you over your purchase so you don't feel shafted by getting the "bummer lump". Nor has the "new" motor had any real issues in any of it's platforms of any real consequence (how will an engine have reliability issues in one chasis and not another??? It's totaly non-sensical BS he's spouting) A manual makes it more bearable, but... the Fiance and I borrowed a buddies JKU up in Canada this summer cause we flew up and frankly between the 3.8 and the Slush-box I absolutely HATED the truck, but it ran like a top and it has NOT had an easy life (buddy uses it to shuttle DH bikes in the summer and for his jump-off point for BC-skiing in the winter...) and showed ALOT of interior/non-drivetrain wear and tear (pretty typical for Jeeps from my long list of previous trucks) Loved the Lay-out/utility/room, hated the drivetrain plain and simple.
 

Dendy Jarrett

Expedition Portal Admin
Staff member
MOA Adventurer:
There were several factors that typically lead AEV to start the build with a Sport - the biggest of these is price. I paid for some upgrades on mine that technically allow it to exceed what a Rubicon can do- 1) 4 to 1 Atlas T-case- allows you to run in 2 wheel lo- something you cannot do in a Rubi 2)Installed Dana 44 front and rear- with Eaton E-lockers 3) Installed manual release sway which allows almost twice the travel as the E release sway 4) Because I have 35" KM2s and am towing, installed 5.13 gear and reset with Procal to make up for power loss. The main reason that I did mine the way it was: 1) It was 98% done to my desired stats to begin with - i.e.: right color, out-fitted, etc. 2) When done by the dealer on a new truck prior to taking delivery, the add-on/up-grades are covered under warranty and 3)all add/ons were able to be financed in the 2011 at 0% interest.

4Rescue: The LR3 weighs in at about twice the weight of the JKU. It is also much more top heavy. Trust me, it was "lumbering and huge" compared to the experience driving the JKU. While, yes, it did have way more HP than the JKU, at twice the weight, the perception of off-the-line start is almost the same. But yes, she most hated the graphics. You were for sure not going anywhere in that truck incognito! And just so you know- we had owned 3 LR3's and 3 MKIII Range Rovers. The JKU loses the luxurious feel of the Range Rover, but It doesn't lack many of the creature comforts, and I was able to purchase both JKU's for the price of a new RR and have money left over!

The "tech" is in no way confused. He was able to share with me some internal documents showing some of the troubles with the 3.6 verses the 3.8 that has been tried and true. What I kept rationalizing was - for years the 3.6 has been the standard. It is a big improvement in the 95' disco I had been driving and towing with- along with much more reliable, and finally the incentives to take the 2011 verses the 2012 sealed the decision for me. (it also helped that in researching, the AEV's are holding their own in keeping value for re-sale).
Also, when I started down this path, the 2012 Procal had not come out, and I wanted to make sure I could run the larger tires and gearing without the worry of computer syncro being off.

D

ps: I typically do not buy a new model change the first year it comes out. This is usually the "work the bugs out" year. (this holds true for just about any type of technology, ie: cars, computers, tvs, etc.)
 
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The Swiss

Expedition Leader
1) 4 to 1 Atlas T-case- allows you to run in 2 wheel lo- something you cannot do in a Rubi

This is NICE!! One thing I liked about the Land Rovers is the ability to run in 4 low with the central differential open. Running 2 low comes close to this, really handy in tight twisty situation, especially with trailers.

4Rescue: The LR3 weighs in at about twice the weight of the JKU. It is also much more top heavy.

Was about the same with the Jeep Commander. It just subjectively felt heavy and cumbersome, even though size was was not any bigger than the JKU with a shorter wheelbase.

ps: I typically do not buy a new model change the first year it comes out. This is usually the "work the bugs out" year. (this holds true for just about any type of technology, ie: cars, computers, tvs, etc.)

Fully agree with you. If the lease would not have been up on my 2008; or if Chrysler would have let me extend the lease for one year, I would have waited one year. Reliability of the Pentastar on the JK is the big question mark. However; it comes with a 100,000 mile drive train warranty; I guess that should be enough to have all the kinks and problems worked out.
 

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