My Planned Recovery Setup

[H0LLYW00D]

I am working on what I need for a "revocery kit" here is what I have:

ARB 7000 Snatch Block (2 Units)
ARB Snatch Strap (ARB705)
ARB Tree protector (ARB730)
ARB Winch extension (ARB725)
ARB 3/4" Bow Shackles (8 Units)
Axe
Shovel
Warn 9.5Xp Winch with synthetic line

anything I need to add or remove?

 

[Frankspinz]

That's a lot of recovery gear ! I'd add a 2nd tree protector for the 2nd snatch block ( I know logic dictates it will be attached to a vehicle but you never know ...)

Depending on your specific circupstances, you need to imagine likely recovery scenarios - depending on terrain & circumpstances ... draw the likely recovery lans on paper & the figure out the gear you'll need...

Other than that experience will dictate !

 

[adrenaline503]

Sounds good, I'll be getting the ARB kit soon.

 

[H0LLYW00D]

I am hoping to have a second snatch strap and tree protector if space allows and even a third snatch block if possible, but thanks for the ideas, I am always open to suggestions.

How about fitment into the rotopax containers they are approx: 17 3/4 L x 13 1/4 W x 3 H and hold 2 gallons worth of gear.

 

[Eventhough]

I am working on what I need for a "revocery kit" here is what I have:

ARB 7000 Snatch Block (2 Units)
ARB Snatch Strap (ARB705)
ARB Tree protector (ARB730)
ARB Winch extension (ARB725)
ARB 3/4" Bow Shackles (8 Units)
Axe
Shovel
Warn 9.5Xp Winch with synthetic line

anything I need to add or remove?

Wow - that's quite a recovery bag you have planned. Are you sure you want 3 snatch blocks? I've done a fair amount of wheeling and have only used 1 at a time.

My recovery bag that hasn't failed me yet consists of:
1 bag (of course)
1 pair gloves
1 pair safety glasses
1 snatch block (I like calling them blocks, or pulleys - b/c you don't 'snatch' with them)
3 D shackles
1 snatch strap or recovery rope
1 tow rope
1 tree strap (wouldn't be bad to have a second tree strap, or add a short section of chain)

There are often times when I use almost everything in my bag - but I've never needed extra. Most often too others have gear but it never gets used b/c I'm fast to the draw. I also wheel almost exclusively in the southeast USA and your conditions could vary drastically.

The more gear you carry the heavier your bag will be and the heavier your vehicle will be. Be careful not to weigh your vehicle down too much.

 

[shovelbill]

some folks think i'm crazy, but i like to have 30' of G70 3/8th with me. there was just a thread on chain here a week or so ago. i sure won't leave home without a hi lift jack. again....i do know weight is an issue.

 

[Scott Brady]

Good list- I have a few suggestions:

The 7,000 is too light for the 9.5 Warn. That is 7,000kg, which is a WLL of 15,400lbs. A pulley block needs to be rated to 2x the winch's stall rating, as the connection point of the pulley sees 2x. The 9,000kg unit gives a WLL of 19,800, which is perfect.

ARB705 is perfect, so long as your vehicles GVWR or curb weight (whichever is greater) is between 5,700-8,800lbs. Nice strap.

ARB730- Sweet

ARB725- I would not buy the ARB winch extension, for two primary reasons. It will not run through a pulley and it is too bulky when compared to a rope. It also cannot be spooled on a winch in an emergency. Get a Viking extension - http://winchline.com/winchline_extension.html

ARB 3/4" Bow Shackles- Eight is probably overkill, I carry six. Just total up your needed connection points for a full rigging and add 1-2 just in case.

Axe - sweet

Shovel - get a full-size spade and a t-handle or a full-length handle.

9.5xp - awesome winch. Super fast. Consider an upgrade to an albright solenoid if it doesn't have it and about the integrated solenoid.

A few suggestions:
1. Line damper
2. Utility (rigging) line- http://www.winchline.com/treesaver.html
3. A few sets of gloves and eye protection
4. Transit cluster for that poor minivan you come across on a snowy pass-

I am working on what I need for a "revocery kit" here is what I have:

ARB 7000 Snatch Block (2 Units)
ARB Snatch Strap (ARB705)
ARB Tree protector (ARB730)
ARB Winch extension (ARB725)
ARB 3/4" Bow Shackles (8 Units)
Axe
Shovel
Warn 9.5Xp Winch with synthetic line

anything I need to add or remove?

 

[windsock]

Good list- I have a few suggestions:

The 7,000 is too light for the 9.5 Warn. That is 7,000kg, which is a WLL of 15,400lbs. A pulley block needs to be rated to 2x the winch's stall rating, as the connection point of the pulley sees 2x. The 9,000kg unit gives a WLL of 19,800, which is perfect.

Watch the polymer pulley on the 9000. I have seen one that had sheared into two when used with synthetic line. I certainly prefer pulleys made from billet steel. The ARB 7000 has a breaking strength of 30,000lb apparently.

I agree on the need mentioned previously of a highlift and G70 chain. I also carry a spare clevis hook and an extra loop so I can change an end attachment type on the chain if need be. Both well used items of my own self-recovery kit.

Nylon ropes are also essential for the type of driving I do. Ropes can be walked across river currents whereas walking a strap across a river current is dangerous. Walk the rope across then pull a recovery strap to where I need it.

I also carry smaller shackles. When recovering others it is amazing the number of holes I see in tow points and such like that are too small for the bigger shackles. All risks are weighedup and considered prior to using lower weight-rated gear.

I carry three winch extension straps - 2 x 20 metre and 1 x ten metre . I only have two and a half layers of rope on my old 8000lb worm-drive winch, approx 20 metres. In all the years of winching I find it takes on average 5-10 metres of pulling to extricate either myself or whatever it is I am attached too. By using less winds on the winch spool, my amperage draw is lessened and my winch rated capacity to pull is maintained somewhat more than using a full spool for short pulls. If I need a longer pull, I use a combination of extension straps.

Caveat emptor, all care and no responsibility for the advice given

 

[Paladin]

I carry 4 3/4" shackles, and 2 7/8" shackles.

Reason is, if the you're actually anticipating pulling 20,000 lbs with a snatch block, then a 3/4" shackle is not strong enough to withstand that force. Using a pulley block with a WLL of 20,000lb, attached to a 25,000lb tree strap by a shackle only rated at 4 3/4 ton (9500lbs) doesn't really make sense.

 

[Paladin]

Fair enough, but your 7 ton shackle is still weaker than a 7000kg snatch block. Now what?

 

[Paladin]

Well, if going over the WLL is "good enough" for you, that's your choice. Your shackle is still your weakest link, and it's easy to buy a larger one, and they fit in the hole on the snatch block. You could even fit a 1" in there.

If a person is going to have more than 2 shackles, I don't see any good reason not to go oversize on a couple of them, especially when they're packing a snatch block that can double the line pull, and allow even an 8000lb winch go over the WLL on a good quality 3/4" shackle.

 

[stevo]

Recovery Equipment

My "recovery equipment list" may seem a bit much but when one usually travels alone, one should be able to take care of themselves. Yes, all of this stuff takes up space and is heavy, but, peace of mind is worth alot. (Yes, over the years, I have used all of this stuff at one time or another.)
Since my vehicle is new (to me) I haven't completed it yet-I'm saving for my Warn winch now. However, my daily pack-out consists of: 2 "D-handled" shovels (1 standard, 1 trenching, both with fiberglass shafts), 1 8# sledge, 1 axe, 1 bow saw, 1 mattock, 1 60" construction grade prybar, 1 machete, 1 60" Hi-lift jack with footing pad, 2 Warn 19K lb. "snatch blocks", 2@ 3/4 "D" shackles, 2@ 1" "D" shackles. 1 Warn 14K tree strap, 1Warn 5/16"x10' choker chain, 1 Warn 3"x 30' recovery strap. All of this stuff is in my truck all the time; sometimes I also carry 2 sand mats (aircraft landing mats cut to 5' lengths).
I know, it seems like overkill but like I said-peace of mind is worth alot.
Cheers, Stevo

 

[H0LLYW00D]

Thanks for the help and information everyone, I have composed a revised and more complete list of what I plan to have on the truck, It seems like alot of gear but I am planning a week long trip followed by a 1 month trip the following year so its better to have the gear then need it and not have it.

1 X Hi-Lift 60" Jack
1 X Fiskars 36 Inch Split Axe
1 X Troy-Bilt D-Handle Shovel
1 X Hi-Lift Jack Mount
1 X Shovel with Axe Mount
2 X ARB 730 Tree Straps
2 X ARB 705 Recovery Straps
2 X ARB 7000 Snatch Block
8 X ARB 3/4" Bow Shackle
1 X ARB Drag Chain
1 X ARB Tire Repair Kit
2 X Mechanix Gloves
1 X Staun Tire Deflators
1 X No Loss Valve Caps
1 X Warn 9.5XP Winch with Wireless Remote Control
1 X 100ft Viking Offroad 3/8" Black Synthetic Line
1 X 50ft Viking Offroad 3/8 Black Synthetic Line Extension
1 X Biking Offroad Synthetic Line Fairlead
1 X Viking Offroad Winchline Repair Kit

 

[opie]

Well, if going over the WLL is "good enough" for you, that's your choice. Your shackle is still your weakest link, and it's easy to buy a larger one, and they fit in the hole on the snatch block. You could even fit a 1" in there.

If a person is going to have more than 2 shackles, I don't see any good reason not to go oversize on a couple of them, especially when they're packing a snatch block that can double the line pull, and allow even an 8000lb winch go over the WLL on a good quality 3/4" shackle.

Problem sometimes arises when the opening in the thimble, tube thimble or safety thimble will not accomodate a larger shackle.

Funny how we get all wrapped up in the WLL of some of our gear while being satisfied with the tensile strength of other gear. A 4 3/4 ton WLL d shackle is stronger than the majority of 3/8 sling hooks being used on the end of most winch lines.

Nevermind the rating of the line itself. 3/8 SK75 is going to fail before a 4 3/4 ton WLL d shackle.

 

[coastsider]

A set of good 'sand ladders' or MaxTrax type devices can get you out of a lot of situations, not a replacement for a good winch etc, just easier and quicker to deploy especially if it's just a loss of traction situation.