new Jeep Compass to include a Trail-Rated model

RoyJ

Adventurer
Since Porsche was brought up, let's look at some of the diehard Porsche fans. They believe that everything Porsche makes is watered down crap. In their mind, Porsche should only make primitive, air cooled, rwd, rear engine, sportscars that weight less than 2800 lbs with an interior that can hardly be called one.

They cringe when Porsche made a water cooled 996 Turbo, or introduced the automatic transmission, or the topless Boxster, or gasp! the Caynne SUV. They claim there're no real Porsches anymore, and that Porsche will self destruct. And guess what, by around 2008, that SUV (which is about as far away from a 993 air cooled coupe as a Compass is from a CJ) had made Porsche one of the biggest automakers in Europe, if not the world.

Every heard of Pacific trucks? They were a hardcore logging truck manufacturer that stuck to their roots, like some Jeep lovers dream of Jeep doing. There's a reason you don't hear about Pacifics any more...

Times change. Those who don't change with it, fail. When logging went from old growth to smaller, hwy truck friendly second growth trees, people stopped buying those huge Pacifics, and used run of the mill, watered down Kenworths and Petes.

Ask yourself, how many buyers today, even from the Wrangler crowd, even knows what articulation means? Then ask yourself, how many buyers know what ride quality or quietness means.
 

winkosmosis

Explorer
Since Porsche was brought up, let's look at some of the diehard Porsche fans. They believe that everything Porsche makes is watered down crap. In their mind, Porsche should only make primitive, air cooled, rwd, rear engine, sportscars that weight less than 2800 lbs with an interior that can hardly be called one.

They cringe when Porsche made a water cooled 996 Turbo, or introduced the automatic transmission, or the topless Boxster, or gasp! the Caynne SUV. They claim there're no real Porsches anymore, and that Porsche will self destruct. And guess what, by around 2008, that SUV (which is about as far away from a 993 air cooled coupe as a Compass is from a CJ) had made Porsche one of the biggest automakers in Europe, if not the world.

Every heard of Pacific trucks? They were a hardcore logging truck manufacturer that stuck to their roots, like some Jeep lovers dream of Jeep doing. There's a reason you don't hear about Pacifics any more...

Times change. Those who don't change with it, fail. When logging went from old growth to smaller, hwy truck friendly second growth trees, people stopped buying those huge Pacifics, and used run of the mill, watered down Kenworths and Petes.

Ask yourself, how many buyers today, even from the Wrangler crowd, even knows what articulation means? Then ask yourself, how many buyers know what ride quality or quietness means.


But unlike water cooled Porsches, Cayennes, and small trucks, the Compass is the answer to a question nobody asked.

The Patriot's existence is justified because it's basically a small minivan and looks like a Jeep, so it probably appeals to some buyers who want the look but not the capability.

But what is the Compass? It looks like a car and competes with its twin, the Caliber. What is the point? Does anybody really buy the Compass because it's "a Jeep"? Why wouldn't they just buy the Caliber? Meanwhile they're rolling around the streets diluting the Jeep brand.

You could apply the same pro-Compass argument to Acura selling compact cars. But there's a reason the RSX and CL don't exist anymore. Honda realized it was only diluting Acura's luxury identity. Those RSX buyers probably buy Civics instead, and Honda makes the $ anyway.

It would be cool if the Compass being a rally vehicle panned out, then it could compete with Subaru and steal some of those buyers... But that didn't happen because Chrysler had its head up its Daimler butt. I guess it would have cost too much to make ball joints that don't fail for no reason, much less build a car that can drive fast on dirt.

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But maybe the Jeep Panda will be cool

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