New Tacoma vs Colorado vs Ranger

[jaywo]

The manual for the Tacoma got released.

https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/om-s/OM04041U/pdf/OM04041U.pdf?_gl=1*uhwrb8*_tmna_ga*MjI1NTYyOTM4LjE3MDI0MTc3MDE.*_tmna_ga_EP43E5EFVZ*MTcwMjQxNzcwMS4xLjEuMTcwMjQxNzc0NC4xNy4wLjA.

A basic TRD offroad has 1200 payload. That’s without any off road goodies and without any package.

The fact that the TRD off road has 1200 payload and yet they charge you 55K is absurd. this eliminates the off road for me. If the TH doesn’t cut it I am getting a ZR2. And don’t forget that 1200 is a base offroad! Add the premium package with moonroof and all the tech and enjoy your 1000lbs payload! Absurd.
The Ranger Raptor gets 1450 and the ZR2 gets a poor 1250, but at least it has dual lockers, rock sliders and that’s fully loaded. With the same equipment you would be below 1000lbs on the Trd off road

 

[D45]

What is the transmission in the 2023 Colorado and Canyon?

8 speed transmission (8L90)?

Mine is becoming a PITA in the Silverado

 

[Todd780]

Google...

Google

 

[Pacific Northwest yetti]

8L45 8 speed in my 2019. V6

 

[jaywo]

What is the transmission in the 2023 Colorado and Canyon?

8 speed transmission (8L90)?

Mine is becoming a PITA in the Silverado

8L90 yes. What issue are you having? At least there is less torque to handle in the midsize

 

[Buddha.]

The manual for the Tacoma got released.

https://assets.sia.toyota.com/publications/en/om-s/OM04041U/pdf/OM04041U.pdf?_gl=1*uhwrb8*_tmna_ga*MjI1NTYyOTM4LjE3MDI0MTc3MDE.*_tmna_ga_EP43E5EFVZ*MTcwMjQxNzcwMS4xLjEuMTcwMjQxNzc0NC4xNy4wLjA.

A basic TRD offroad has 1200 payload. That’s without any off road goodies and without any package.

The fact that the TRD off road has 1200 payload and yet they charge you 55K is absurd. this eliminates the off road for me. If the TH doesn’t cut it I am getting a ZR2. And don’t forget that 1200 is a base offroad! Add the premium package with moonroof and all the tech and enjoy your 1000lbs payload! Absurd.
The Ranger Raptor gets 1450 and the ZR2 gets a poor 1250, but at least it has dual lockers, rock sliders and that’s fully loaded. With the same equipment you would be below 1000lbs on the Trd off road

I’ve seen 9xxlbs on a TuRD Sport long bed a couple years ago. I couldn’t believe it.

 

[rruff]

I’ve seen 9xxlbs on a TuRD Sport long bed a couple years ago. I couldn’t believe it.

And actually loaded with 4x that amount...

 

[Buddha.]

And actually loaded with 4x that amount...

It’s not hard to exceed 900lb when you’ve got five seat belts and a six foot bed.

 

[D45]

8L90 yes. What issue are you having? At least there is less torque to handle in the midsize

Just seems to have low rpm and low speed operating issues

I just hit 100,000 miles and it acts up now and then. I'm just concerned about long term reliability

Alot of the tranx shops in my area say the 8 speed is not solid and reliable

Two friends just had major issues, one a complete and unexpected rebuild at 125,000 and the other is in the stop every 3-4 months for shudder and torque converter issues

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a43398900/gm-will-face-class-action-suit-over-8-speed-gearbox-issues/

 

[Moyshe Kapoyer]

Out of those 3, I'd go with the Ranger Raptor. The 3.0 Nano is a beast of an engine and very over built. I'd imagine it's going to be like all the other Ecoboost motors where aftermarket tuning results in a nice jump in HP TQ. If you run a custom E85 tune it will be a pretty dramatic increase in power.

 

[jaywo]

Out of those 3, I'd go with the Ranger Raptor. The 3.0 Nano is a beast of an engine and very over built. I'd imagine it's going to be like all the other Ecoboost motors where aftermarket tuning results in a nice jump in HP TQ. If you run a custom E85 tune it will be a pretty dramatic increase in power.

Problem is impossible to get at least where I am at

 

[rruff]

The 3.0 Nano is a beast of an engine and very over built.

What makes you say it's overbuilt? It's a bored and stroked 2.7L with a cast aluminum block replacing the compacted-graphite iron block.

 

[Moyshe Kapoyer]

Problem is impossible to get at least where I am at

Can't you order one? Or do a "fly and buy."

 

[Moyshe Kapoyer]

What makes you say it's overbuilt? It's a bored and stroked 2.7L with a cast aluminum block replacing the compacted-graphite iron block.

Look at the Explorer STs that have 500+ whp on a internally stock 3.0 that are daily drivers. At ~20% drivetrain loss, that puts them at 600HP at the crank, which is a pretty sizeable jump from stock, and they handle it with out issue.

 

[rruff]

I didn't realize it had been out since 2016!