"New Technology Rage/Hate/Praise Thread"

[plumber mike]

I wonder what you'll call using a bicycle in such places? Is that akin to going to the moon if you taking a motorised vehicle to remote places constitutes an "expedition".

But, sure, whatever. You go ahead with your "expeditions", lol.

It’s hard to argue with the reliability of a bicycle. Using your “logic”, could you tell us how digital technology would improve upon its reliability?

 

[Pilat]

It’s hard to argue with the reliability of a bicycle. Using your “logic”, could you tell us how digital technology would improve upon its reliability?

It's "tech". My bike is made from titanium, and is outfitted with a Rohloff IGH and a Gates carbon belt drive. It uses modern tyres and has hydraulic brakes.

My point is that if you consider going someplace "remote" in a motorised vehicle "an expedition", I wonder what you'd call it if going there by bicycle. It has to be a bigger endeavour than using an ICE vehicle, surely.

As for digital tech. Since it consumes electricity, it is probably not so good on a bicycle since you either have to carry batteries, use a dynamo hub or solar. Batteries and solar are both heavy, and since you are the only "engine", that puts a limit on what to bring. Unlike an ICE vehicle where you have what is basically a huge generator. That said, I carry an Inreach Mini, a smart phone, and a GPS. I also carry a digital bicycle pump as it is more precise than the analogue equivalent.

But, seriously, going somewhere "remote" hardly makes something an "expedition". It's that sort of language that makes me think you take yourself way too seriously. It's just a car in the end. And you go places in it. Hell, you can even add a sat phone to make sure you're not stranded somewhere if these "remote" areas are so daunting without giving much thought as to weight and charging/battery life.
I could understand you if you were on a boat somewhere where you can't "get off", so to speak.

 

[plumber mike]

It's "tech". My bike is made from titanium, and is outfitted with a Rohloff IGH and a Gates carbon belt drive. It uses modern tyres and has hydraulic brakes.

My point is that if you consider going someplace "remote" in a motorised vehicle "an expedition", I wonder what you'd call it if going there by bicycle. It has to be a bigger endeavour than using an ICE vehicle, surely.

As for digital tech. Since it consumes electricity, it is probably not so good on a bicycle since you either have to carry batteries, use a dynamo hub or solar. Batteries and solar are both heavy, and since you are the only "engine", that puts a limit on what to bring. Unlike an ICE vehicle where you have what is basically a huge generator. That said, I carry an Inreach Mini, a smart phone, and a GPS. I also carry a digital bicycle pump as it is more precise than the analogue equivalent.

But, seriously, going somewhere "remote" hardly makes something an "expedition". It's that sort of language that makes me think you take yourself way too seriously. It's just a car in the end. And you go places in it. Hell, you can even add a sat phone to make sure you're not stranded somewhere if these "remote" areas are so daunting without giving much thought as to weight and charging/battery life.
I could understand you if you were on a boat somewhere where you can't "get off", so to speak.

Everywhere you go, there you are.
Bummer for you.

 

[Pilat]

Everywhere you go, there you are.
Bummer for you.

Ha, ha! That's really impressive. Do you have something more than kindergarten-grade (attempted) insults?

 

[Pilat]

Surprising to the automotive know it alls too. The amount of wheel & axel technology in such a thing.
Those wheels are negative offset and the spindle canted downward to a positive camber. Its steering axel may have a toe in also.

How it is set up is not "technology" as such. Of course, the design and choices made (materials too) to make the best of it is. So I guess you could argue that setup is part of the "technology" if you wish.

To continue with the bicycle analogy: How long pedal arms I use or how I adjust the saddle (or seat post), or the handlebars, is not exactly "technology". The geometry of the bike isn't either.

 

[Pilat]

What else can it be.
Those wheels are not simply a round thing assembled at random.

You are talking about the setup of the suspension. I was saying that the wheel itself is technology too. How I setup my seat or handlebars is not technology, surely?

Just like wheels on modern car, they follow specific design intended to fulfill desired performance.

I know. I was talking about the wheel itself being technology. It is. I am not sure what you're disagreeing with here. That you somehow think I don't consider a wheel "technology"? I do. Even a flint spearhead is technology. Just not very advanced in this day and age.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Hmm, no. Pneumatic tyres is a big part of the suspension and grip in general.

And are becoming obsolete on some things.
Tweels are becoming popular on lawn mowers and skid loaders because among other things they never go flat and ride better.

 

[Pilat]

And are becoming obsolete on some things.
Tweels are becoming popular and lawn mowers and skid loaders because among other things they never go flat and ride better.

Except they're not as good as pneumatic tyres when it comes to things where the load (or surface) changes . You'd need different tweels for asphalt than you'd use for say, a bit of mud/sand, and different tweels for cold/hot weather to maximise grip, as well as various tweels depending on how loaded the vehicle was. With a pneumatic tyre you can adjust for these things with a simple pump. There is a reason you don't see tweels on actual cars or trucks.
"grip" is hardly a huge problem for slow moving things like a lawnmower or a skid loader. You don't go fast with either.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Except they're not as good as pneumatic tyres when it comes to things where the load (or surface) changes . You'd need different tweels for asphalt than you'd use for say, a bit of mud/sand, and different tweels for cold/hot weather to maximise grip, as well as various tweels depending on how loaded the vehicle was. With a pneumatic tyre you can adjust for these things with a simple pump. There is a reason you don't see tweels on actual cars or trucks.

A skid loader can be pretty varied for load/terrain...

But yeah still under development for cars, I think mainly for vibration and noise though.

 

[Pilat]

A skid loader can be pretty varied for load/terrain...

But yeah still under development for cars, I think mainly for vibration and noise though.

Which means that their grip is not there either. If it vibrates the whole car, that means the whole car is then unsprung somewhat, or if it's merely the wheel itself that "vibrates", that means it doesn't have that much grip either. Neither are good for actual grip. And you can't "air down" the tweel should you find yourself in a bit of mud/sans/snow. Hell, those tweels are much worse than even - very - low profile tyres. They're basically no-profile tyres and have no adjustments depending on load/surface.

 

[plumber mike]

Ha, ha! That's really impressive. Do you have something more than kindergarten-grade (attempted) insults?

It wasn’t an insult. I honestly feel bad for you. It’s Xmas here. How about you be right today. It seems to make you feel better.

 

[Pilat]

It wasn’t an insult. I honestly feel bad for you. It’s Xmas here. How about you be right today. It seems to make you feel better.

Passive-aggressiveness really isn't your strong-suit.

 

[plumber mike]

Passive-aggressiveness really isn't your strong-suit.

Right again! LOL

 

[Pilat]

Right again! LOL

I know. Hence you beginning your passive-aggressiveness.

 

[plumber mike]

I know. Hence you beginning your passive-aggressiveness.

I’m trying to be nice. Are you from Pirate?