"New Technology Rage/Hate/Praise Thread"

[roving1]

... Sooooo you can still turn them off.

Untill the next key cycle and then they are back on.

 

[Todd780]

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Untill the next key cycle and then they are back on.

Yet again, 100% false. I can turn them on and off in less time than it takes to prove you wrong on here...haha

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It's amazing what one can do with a vehicle when they actually understand how they work.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Not really.

For $60 I can put all three new cables on a 2019 F-150. I consider that to be fairly new. Rock auto doesn’t show a 2020 so I don’t know if that changed or not (tune in next week when 2020 gets here?!)

I don’t mind some tech really. Stuff like this is the answer to the question nobody asked though.

Have fun replacing 60.00 worth of cables. Have fun adjusting them as they stretch. Have fun with less leg room due to a goofy little brake peddle.

I have an electric parking brakes on both of my vehicles... I have not once had to do anything to them and probably never will.

We have (combined mileage from a numerous trucks) hundreds of thousands of miles in a phosphate mine where I work and not a single issue. Millions of vehicles around the globe have them....and have no issues.

Looks like you gents are in a tizzy over absolutely nothing what so ever.

 

[plumber mike]

Well, we have them on a few of our trucks were I work. They spend all day in a phosphate mine (ie. a giant mud pit)... Zero problems year after year.

Look, I get it, you don't like technology... But that will not change the fact that vehicles are becoming more and more advanced every single year and there is absolutely nothing what so ever that you can do about it. It leaves you with two choices: learn somwthing new, or be religated to old vehicles. Either is a good choice.

Technology is wonderful. But perhaps they could apply it to things that benefit from it rather than applying it to everything.
Chocolate is wonderful too, but not on everything.

 

[plumber mike]

Another mini rant about automatic transmission manual mode. Don’t call it manual mode if the computer will override your decision. Maddening POS

 

[Pilat]

Technology is wonderful. But perhaps they could apply it to things that benefit from it rather than applying it to everything.
Chocolate is wonderful too, but not on everything.

Weird. Even car tyres are applied technology (vulcanised rubber etc). So are the bearings. Hell, even spoked wagon wheels (as in a horse carriage) is "technology".

 

[plumber mike]

Weird. Even car tyres are applied technology (vulcanised rubber etc). So are the bearings. Hell, even spoked wagon wheels (as in a horse carriage) is "technology".

Yes. It’s wonderful. But not applied to everything. Spoked wagon wheels were the original run flat. Had suspension technology advanced first, a pneumatic tire may have been unnecessary.
Yet with electronics and computers, they seem to want to toss it on everything....even things that function fine in purely mechanical form.
I much prefer my transmission to have no wires attached. I prefer the reverse light to trigger on a manual switch so they can be turned on anytime.

 

[Pilat]

Yes. It’s wonderful. But not applied to everything. Spoked wagon wheels were the original run flat. Had suspension technology advanced first, a pneumatic tire may have been unnecessary.

Hmm, no. Pneumatic tyres is a big part of the suspension and grip in general.

Yet with electronics and computers, they seem to want to toss it on everything....even things that function fine in purely mechanical form.
I much prefer my transmission to have no wires attached. I prefer the reverse light to trigger on a manual switch so they can be turned on anytime.

Ah, so it's just digital technology you're opposed to.

 

[plumber mike]

Hmm, no. Pneumatic tyres is a big part of the suspension and grip in general.


Ah, so it's just digital technology you're opposed to.

You seem to be taking my words beyond what I meant.
I didn’t say I was opposed to digital technology. I said it didn’t need to be used on everything.
I didn’t say pneumatic tires weren’t a part of the suspension system.....but that spoked wheels didn’t lose air.
If you are looking to debate, perhaps you could cite some benefits of bringing digital technology to components that worked fine without them. Help me see the benefits.

 

[Pilat]

You seem to be taking my words beyond what I meant.
I didn’t say I was opposed to digital technology. I said it didn’t need to be used on everything.
I didn’t say pneumatic tires weren’t a part of the suspension system.....but that spoked wheels didn’t lose air.
If you are looking to debate, perhaps you could cite some benefits of bringing digital technology to components that worked fine without them. Help me see the benefits.

I don't actually need to as it should be self-evident. The internal combustion engine works better with modern tech. Headlights work better with modern tech. Transmission, suspension etc. works better with modern tech. Just about anything you can imagine works better. Just because things also worked somewhat with old-school tech (obviously it did), doesn't mean that modern tech is not better. Is it unnecessary to have a parking brake be electronic? Probably to some extent. But considering how many old-school cars I see where the mechanical parking brake doesn't work to a smaller or greater extent, I'd say it is probably an improvement overall. You can even put in a sensor that makes it possible to sense whether the car is actually braked or not.

I wonder if you have servo steering in your vehicles or if you make do without that?

 

[plumber mike]

I don't actually need to as it should be self-evident. The internal combustion engine works better with modern tech. Headlights work better with modern tech. Transmission, suspension etc. works better with modern tech. Just about anything you can imagine works better. Just because things also worked somewhat with old-school tech (obviously it did), doesn't mean that modern tech is not better. Is it unnecessary to have a parking brake be electronic? Probably to some extent. But considering how many old-school cars I see where the mechanical parking brake doesn't work to a smaller or greater extent, I'd say it is probably an improvement overall. You can even put in a sensor that makes it possible to sense whether the car is actually braked or not.

I wonder if you have servo steering in your vehicles or if you make do without that?

Servos I can do without, but hydraulic assist I certainly appreciate. I’m in no way looking to change your mind, but I do see your blanket statements as being delusional.....especially from an expedition standpoint. I think we all need to find the balance that works for us. Some may have greater diagnostic skills in electronics vs. mechanics......but parts fail, and so does availability at times. Reducing the number of possible component failures is important to me when I am traveling somewhere without services.

 

[Pilat]

"expedition standpoint"

 

[plumber mike]

"expedition standpoint"

Yes. Like actually using the vehicle in remote areas.
If you like digital technology so much, perhaps a VR headset and a new sofa could be your next vehicle.

 

[Pilat]

Yes. Like actually using the vehicle in remote areas.
If you like digital technology so much, perhaps a VR headset and a new sofa could be your next vehicle.

I wonder what you'll call using a bicycle in such places? Is that akin to going to the moon if you taking a motorised vehicle to remote places constitutes an "expedition".

But, sure, whatever. You go ahead with your "expeditions", lol.