Nps vs fg

[whatcharterboat]

Also want to add that both of them are so much better than the old models. Guys that are running on the beach with standard engine specs are getting by without any dramas. If you want to tow that boat in soft sand but I would be trying to get as much as possible.

One of our customers tows a similar size boat on Fraser regularly. Chip, exhaust and those big Michelin XMLs. No problems and the truck is almost 6 tons.

 

[ozzyfishaman]

I deal a lot with diesel programmers and chips and from what i have been told by my suppliers that it is not advisable to chip a truck with the DPD, that is unless I have been misinformed.

 

[ozzyfishaman]

Is that the Fg he tows the boat with ?

 

[ozzyfishaman]

Have you seen this Video of the Guys towing a boat to the Toyota Comp on Fraser ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fltzKmncpR8

 

[whatcharterboat]

Hi John. I'd check with Isuzu. I heard it second hand and I couldn't say it was accurate. About $1500 for the ECU and 3 for the DPD. It's not something we want to get into. That's for the dealers. Whatever you do make sure you aren't stuffing your warranty. As for FGs I can recommend TaipanXP for the exhausts and chips. They are the best guys in the country on them.

You can't play around with the NPS exhaust at all. Not at all.Tuned length and we've heard of body builders gettting into trouble by shortening them and the ECU complaining. They are the most weird exhaust I've seen. Things on them I have no idea what they are. There is like a second exhaust brake after the DPD. I think it is varies back pressure during the DPD's controlled burn. And the twin muffler setup isn't normal either.

 

[whatcharterboat]

I deal a lot with diesel programmers and chips and from what i have been told by my suppliers that it is not advisable to chip a truck with the DPD, that is unless I have been misinformed.
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Sounds about right.

 

[whatcharterboat]

Have you seen this Video of the Guys towing a boat to the Toyota Comp on Fraser ?

Sorry Can't see youtube on my new computer yet.

This is the truck . Somewhere I have a pic of the boat on the back. I'm not exactly sure of the size of the boat but it's big. Maybe you know. It's from the West and is the same one as Malcom Douglas uses. I guess it's about 6 metres anyway. Plate alloy of course.

 

[engineer]

G'day John,
Only 100mm? that (according to my calculations) would only give a 12.7% rebound decrease. I think you guys have got it right. (other than unimog, but good luck with spare parts and insurance at a reasonable cost.)

 

[whatcharterboat]

BTW Chocko did you know that the new NPS has 100mm longer springs than the old model? On the front anyway.

G'day John,
Only 100mm? that (according to my calculations) would only give a 12.7% rebound decrease. I think you guys have got it right. (other than unimog, but good luck with spare parts and insurance at a reasonable cost.)

Chocko. Not 100% sure what suspension upgrade we're going to do on the new NPS yet. As I said they 've obviously made an attempt to improve them by increasing the length but the ride is still a shocker. I have driven one with some differnt spring packs and I hope to drive one with parabolics off a Hino which is a simple (but not cheap option). Still not the best. Very good on the highway but they'd be a killer on corrugations or washouts on the beach.

We're looking at doing our old long spring packs (like Mike's that you just mentioned). Because the rails are 850mm apart and straight, they look easier to mod (I'm sure you know what I mean by this).

 

[engineer]

Where does the module eye level end up with a straight chassis?
I didn't think it was an issue with the FTS or MAN, but with the smaller NPS, it always seemed to be inline with the cab roof.
We used to sling the Canter as low as we could humanly go by utilising the goose neck.
Just love a comparision if you could.

 

[whatcharterboat]

module eye level

Sorry mate. What are you asking? Does this help? Just not sure of the term?

Some pics today. Getting ready for another round of brake testing for compliance of the single rear wheels on the Isuzu.

They are the most weird exhaust I've seen. Things on them I have no idea what they are. There is like a second exhaust brake after the DPD. I think it is varies back pressure during the DPD's controlled burn.

 

[whatcharterboat]

However Isuzu mustn't have been content with the old cables and went full electric/vacumn operated 4wd / low/hi range select. (Like the previous model FS550). So you just flick switches. They still have the gear shift in the conventional position.

 

[ozzyfishaman]

I contacted ISUZU about the wading depth of the NPS and they quote 670-750 MM,they said as long as the engine is running it wouldn't impact on the DPD.He did STRESS though make sure the installed wiring has to be well sealed if venturing near SALT WATER.

 

[ozzyfishaman]

They also stated this Power comparo between the FG and the NPS.( The spec sheet states that the Mitsubishi has 52Nm extra torque. However this is only available at 1600rpm. Because of our variable Geometry Turbocharger, our 419Nm of torque is available for over 50% of the rev range. If you look at the vehicle travelling at 100kph, and both vehicles hit a slope, the Mitsubishi has roughly 390Nm avaiailable, whereas the Isuzu is still at maximum torque of 419Nm. = More usable power per gear without having to down shift).How do they Feel in real life John,are they similar?

 

[ozzyfishaman]

I forgot to mention he stated that all trucks in this catagary have to have a DPD in 2010