Ozark Trail "High Performance" cooler - any good?

jsexton

Observer
Got mine ordered. Free shipping to my door. Arrives on 20 Sept. Hopefully the order will get filled and I'll finally get to see if it was worth all the effort of watching this thread, and scouring the local stores.

Just an fyi, be prepared for it to come late. I've ordered two 26qt's on two separate occasions, both times it shipped after the projected delivery date. I could have just been unlucky, but I doubt it considering it happened twice.
 

Ducky's Dad

Explorer
The RTIC 65 is 36.5 lbs and that 18 lbs, that pretty much tells me the insulation is not as dense.
Generally, you don't want the insulation to be dense. The denser it is, the better it is at transferring heat. The best insulator is a complete vacuum, with no light transmission. It's hard to maintain a vacuum in these things, so they fill the cavities with foam to encapsulate air and prevent movement of that air (the foam also stiffens the overall structure). Weight is your enemy when it comes to insulation value, but the heavier coolers are generally more robust because they have thicker walls, better hinges, latches, seals, handles, etc. One reason the Ozark 26 is heavy is because it has what appears to be a stainless steel loop handle, adds weight but helps with longevity. The seal around the top of the Ozark 26 is surrounded by a fairly massive amount of rotomolded plastic, adds lots of stiffness and helps maintain a good seal. The tradeoff is additional weight. A lighter cooler will usually have thinner walls, plastic hinges and latches instead of stainless, etc.
 

billbillw

New member
26 Qts in stock right now on walmart.com:

As are the two Orzark soft sides:

(I had to remove links because I'm a new member)


So, I've seen quite a few reviews of the larger Premium Jumbo Tote, but nobody seems to have used/reviewed the backpack version (the 20-can Ozark Trail Premium Backpack Cooler). I went ahead and ordered one to try. I'll do a quick review when I get it and have a chance to use it.
 

CSG

Explorer
I was at our local Walmart last night because I wanted to try one of their Ozark Trail 20 oz. mugs for under $8. I asked about the coolers and the sales guy told me that only certain locations were getting them and neither of our local stores were on the list yet. Living in a huge outdoor capitol of fishing, hunting, and outdoor activities, that was surprising to hear. Apparently, they OT coolers are going into larger population markets.
 

perkj

Explorer
So, I've seen quite a few reviews of the larger Premium Jumbo Tote, but nobody seems to have used/reviewed the backpack version (the 20-can Ozark Trail Premium Backpack Cooler). I went ahead and ordered one to try. I'll do a quick review when I get it and have a chance to use it.

Backpack one was just released by Walmart/Ozark earlier this week and mine arrived last night. Basically same construction as the Jumbo Tote but in a smaller form factor and with straps to make it a backpack. Although no formal testing of it yet, looks to be a winner in my book (esp at $39).
 

billbillw

New member
Backpack one was just released by Walmart/Ozark earlier this week and mine arrived last night. Basically same construction as the Jumbo Tote but in a smaller form factor and with straps to make it a backpack. Although no formal testing of it yet, looks to be a winner in my book (esp at $39).

The zipper looked different in photos. I'm wondering if it might be more watertight. Mine is supposed to arrive for pickup by Monday.
 

hyperboarder

Adventurer
I was at our local Walmart last night because I wanted to try one of their Ozark Trail 20 oz. mugs for under $8. I asked about the coolers and the sales guy told me that only certain locations were getting them and neither of our local stores were on the list yet. Living in a huge outdoor capitol of fishing, hunting, and outdoor activities, that was surprising to hear. Apparently, they OT coolers are going into larger population markets.

Where are you? I found a 52qt in Pocatello this summer and I've seen a handful of the small ones. Plenty of soft ones. We're not getting a ton of them but we're getting some, I'd take that employees comments with a grain of salt.
 

Ducky's Dad

Explorer
I'd take that employees comments with a grain of salt.
I have asked the sporting goods guys at WalMarts in Monrovia, Duarte, Temecula, Murrieta, and Yuma, and only one guy has ever seen an Ozark hard cooler in his store, and that was a long time ago. I think Yuma could be considered and outdoorsy area, and they certainly go through a lot of ice, but no Ozarks in those stores that anyone can recall. I saw one maybe 10 months ago in Temecula, but it was the big one (73?) and it was there for a while. They had it wired shut with the RFID sensor on it, so you couldn't even look at the inside or try the latches and hinges.
 

pyrate

Rollin' along
I have asked the sporting goods guys at WalMarts in Monrovia, Duarte, Temecula, Murrieta, and Yuma, and only one guy has ever seen an Ozark hard cooler in his store, and that was a long time ago. I think Yuma could be considered and outdoorsy area, and they certainly go through a lot of ice, but no Ozarks in those stores that anyone can recall. I saw one maybe 10 months ago in Temecula, but it was the big one (73?) and it was there for a while. They had it wired shut with the RFID sensor on it, so you couldn't even look at the inside or try the latches and hinges.

An unofficial comment from a Walmart employee in SoCal was they weren't putting them here because the sale of the full price brands is high simply on brand recognition. I took that is we are too dumb to see a good deal. :/


Sent from a smoke signal on a mountain top
 

CSG

Explorer
Where are you? I found a 52qt in Pocatello this summer and I've seen a handful of the small ones. Plenty of soft ones. We're not getting a ton of them but we're getting some, I'd take that employees comments with a grain of salt.

I'm in Twin. This guy was a manager. I read that the mugs are hard to find elsewhere but the Twin store had bunches of them.
 

thefishhawk

Adventurer
Generally, you don't want the insulation to be dense. The denser it is, the better it is at transferring heat. The best insulator is a complete vacuum, with no light transmission. It's hard to maintain a vacuum in these things, so they fill the cavities with foam to encapsulate air and prevent movement of that air (the foam also stiffens the overall structure). Weight is your enemy when it comes to insulation value, but the heavier coolers are generally more robust because they have thicker walls, better hinges, latches, seals, handles, etc. One reason the Ozark 26 is heavy is because it has what appears to be a stainless steel loop handle, adds weight but helps with longevity. The seal around the top of the Ozark 26 is surrounded by a fairly massive amount of rotomolded plastic, adds lots of stiffness and helps maintain a good seal. The tradeoff is additional weight. A lighter cooler will usually have thinner walls, plastic hinges and latches instead of stainless, etc.

True in general but here aren't we talking about the difference between medium density closed poly foam and open cell? The denser insulation is going to have a better r-value in this type of insulation and be heavier, and foam isn't a great transferer of heat to begin with. Kind of like going from lightweight fiberglass insulation in homes to sprayed in foam insulation now, it's denser but in the densities we are talking about it doesn't make a huge difference but you are gaining a lot of r-value.

I have two coolers I use generally, the Coleman extreme feels like there is nothing in the walls and my Yeti weighs 50 lbs. I dont' see that weight difference getting made up in rope handles and latches, not sure about the roto molded plastic. The foam makes up the majority of the thing, I still consider weight to be a decent indicator of the quality of the cooler, and that's all I was getting at there. The Yeti will hold ice for two weeks in the utah desert in the summer, and the coleman for 3 days. I've never cut open a Yeti to inspect the foam, but I always thought the "Pressure-injected commercial-grade polyurethane foam" was part of the equation. It has to be heavier than the lightweight open cell foam used in cheap coolers I thought.
 

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