(partially) new Tundra coming?

[ITTOG]

Elevation improves mpg, and the hills reduce it. Jnich77 is from the part of NM where I live, and he's talking about non-freeways mostly, where the speeds are slower.

FYI according to Fuelly averages, the Tundra 5.7 gets ~14mpg, the 5.0 or 3.5TT F150 ~16mpg, and the 2.7TT F150 ~18.5mpg. If you drive a lot that 2.7TT could cover a lot of "sins" with fuel savings. I see little point to the 3.5TT honestly.

The 3.5 is nice if you need the accompanying tow rating.... I don't need it, thus the 3.5 would have been a waste of money. The only upside the 3.5 would have for me is the potential to make more HP with aftermarket parts (there are some pretty large turbo upgrades for it)... But that takes things to a level that is waaaay above what I want/need in a daily driver...lol.

My dad and my brother both have the 3.5 and for them it works. For my dad it was the only motor available in the Navigator in 2015 and my brothers 2019 Limited F150 only comes with the 3.5 HO. They have zero complaints, but they do spend more on fuel than I ever will.

I went with the 3.5 for two reasons. First, and most importantly I am old school and still live by more displacement is better. Second, I wanted the towing capacity.

I sure thought elevation reduced mpg's and power. I guess you are assuming one doesn't smash the pedal more to make up for the loss in power??? But if you don't smash the pedal more, I can see how the mpg's would be better given the lower compression ratios, wind drag, etc.

 

[Christian P.]

guys - this is turning into a F-150 thread. Please start a new one or stay on topic.

 

[Todd780]

I read that Toyota might unveil the new Tundra during the Super Bowl. I see that did not happen. Maybe in 2 years we'll see it?

I see Toyota dealers are expecting it to be a 'world beater'... Pretty sure every dealer of any manufacturer would say that about their truck.

Toyota Dealers Confident 2022 Tundra Will Be A ‘World Beater’

The next Tundra is expected to be revealed by the end of this year. Toyota dealers, however, speaks so highly of the full-size truck even before arrival.

www.motor1.com

Also, I think using the term 'beater' was a poor choice of words..... It sounds like it's a clapped out old truck already......

 

[Deleted member 9101]

I see Toyota dealers are expecting it to be a 'world beater'... Pretty sure every dealer of any manufacturer would say that about their truck.

If you ask them, they'll say that about the current Tundra too...haha. The multiple lines of BS that they used to try and sell me one were hysterical.

 

[DaveInDenver]

Also, I think using the term 'beater' was a poor choice of words..... It sounds like it's a clapped out old truck already......

Top Gear's Hilux was kind of a world beater, wasn't it? I'd take it over any 3rd gen Tundra, the dents'll buff out.

 

[rruff]

I read that Toyota might unveil the new Tundra during the Super Bowl. I see that did not happen. Maybe in 2 years we'll see it?

For sale in Dec 2021 seems like a late date for a 2022 model. I think they are pushing it as far forward as they can, but they are on the hook for 2022... maybe.

If Toyota dealers actually know anything, I'm surprised there haven't been more substantial leaks.

"World Beater" is an odd moniker for a truck that's only sold in North America.

 

[Todd780]

For sale in Dec 2021 seems like a late date for a 2022 model. I think they are pushing it as far forward as they can, but they are on the hook for 2022... maybe.

If Toyota dealers actually know anything, I'm surprised there haven't been more substantial leaks.

"World Beater" is an odd moniker for a truck that's only sold in North America.

Right. Another good point. I didn't even think of the fact it's only sold in N/A.

It does seem late. You'd think they'd want to unveil it, get the configurator live, start taking orders... Even if it's a 2022, would they not have to have them on the lots for Sept 2021?

 

[DaveInDenver]

Right. Another good point. I didn't even think of the fact it's only sold in N/A.

It does seem late. You'd think they'd want to unveil it, get the configurator live, start taking orders... Even if it's a 2022, would they not have to have them on the lots for Sept 2021?

Wouldn't it be interesting if it was the first TNGA-F truck? Although I'd expect if they are trying to converge trucks that they'd use the 300 series Land Cruiser globally to introduce it as king of the hill in Toyota trucks. Seeing it in a Cruiser first I think would bolster the Tundra and Sequoia status in N.A. as legitimate torch carriers with the exit of the badge here. We'll never get a true world truck here but if they can get all the trucks they sell here and around the globe to share a chassis/platform (at least in name) it would give them overlanding chops, right?

 

[bkg]

I read that Toyota might unveil the new Tundra during the Super Bowl. I see that did not happen. Maybe in 2 years we'll see it?

Also, I think using the term 'beater' was a poor choice of words..... It sounds like it's a clapped out old truck already......

trying to look at some of those pictures... it almost appears that the front shock/strut/coilover is mounted single sheer ahead of the a-arm.... is that an illusion, bad eye site? Seems like a horrible mounting position for off-road use?

 

[rruff]

...it would give them overlanding chops, right?

"Same platform" doesn't mean much actually; it's not anything you'd notice. They've paid some attention to making the assembly similar and use common parts when possible. The Frontier and Titan have been on the same platform for a long time for instance.

It seems that people in most of the rest of the world want a truck to be a... truck. In the US the full sized truck is the defacto bigassed do everything and be everything vehicle that appeals to macho manly wannabes and soccermoms (for the safety!) alike. The 3 best selling vehicles in the US are fullsized trucks!

So... I expect they will continue to cater to that market. Fullsized 1/2 tons will be huge, soft inside, ride soft, have all the amenities, and have macho styling... and capable of towing big trailers, but hauling <1,000 lb.

Also, Toyota isn't going to sell many full sized trucks no matter what. This limits what they'd be smart to spend on R&D. Too many US buyers consider it sacrilegious to buy a truck that isn't an "American brand".

 

[DaveInDenver]

trying to look at some of those pictures... it almost appears that the front shock/strut/coilover is mounted single sheer ahead of the a-arm.... is that an illusion, bad eye site? Seems like a horrible mounting position for off-road use?

I saw that and I assumed it was the end link for the sway bar.

 

[bkg]

I saw that and I assumed it was the end link for the sway bar.

You may be correct... seems really, really, realy big for a sway bar...


Current generation swaybar:

 

[Todd780]

You may be correct... seems really, really, realy big for a sway bar...


Current generation swaybar:

Maybe they are going big...

 

[AbleGuy]

Another Spyshot shot...kinda looks like a Taco on steroids!

This is exciting to see though, because (at least to me) this Tundra looks lots more like something from the Toyota lineup than the older ones, and looks lots hotter too. Wow, just...wow!

 

[Todd780]

Another Spyshot shot...kinda looks like a Taco on steroids!

This is exciting to see though, because (at least to me) this Tundra looks lots more like something from the Toyota lineup than the older ones, and looks lots hotter too. Wow, just...wow!

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That's a photoshopped Nissan Titan.