(partially) new Tundra coming?

[AbleGuy]

That's a photoshopped Nissan Titan.

Gad, you’re right!

And that’s a rather scary thought...a drunk in a dark parking lot might have a hard time finding his truck if both of these were parked there! But then again, maybe that would be a good thing (couldn’t drive home under the influence if he couldn’t get his keys to work ?)

Still, this new version (is it the real one?) of the Tundra beats the nattering heck out of the painfully swollen, bulbous looking sheet metal design of the current models. The old ones looks like a hound dog with a bee stung nose!

 

[Todd780]

Still, this new version (is it the real one?) of the Tundra beats the nattering heck out of the painfully swollen, bulbous looking sheet metal design of the current models. The old ones looks like a hound dog with a bee stung nose!

We or rather, I have not seen an image of the new Tundra yet. The leaked spy shot of that front end treatment has yet to be confirmed as a Tundra.

 

[DaveInDenver]

You may be correct... seems really, really, realy big for a sway bar...


Current generation swaybar:

A bigger view of the prototype under wraps and the current 200 series IFS. If I was guessing I still think the bright link is the sway bar end and you can see the lower ball joint to the left. The end of the coil-over I'd think would be boxed in and maybe not visible at this angle.

 

[Dougnuts]

Nevermind, doesn’t matter. I‘m looking forward to the new Tundra, only talking F150 to compare to the Tundra rumors.

 

[skrypj]

I would not be mad if this was a 3.5L TT V6, 10 speed trans, with a coil sprung 5 link rear suspension. Not at all.

That would be like cherry picking some of the best features of the Big 3. Ram has the best interior and ride with the 5 link, but the hemi leaves a bit to be desired. Ford's Ecoboost pulls like a freight train and returns good MPG's unloaded but the chassis has not been the best(ask me how I know) and reliability can be questionable.

If Toyota can get a solid chassis and driveline put together in one truck, and sprinkle a little Toyota reliability on top, it will be a winner. Hopefully they keep that 38 gallon tank and the stout cooling system too.

 

[rruff]

That would be like cherry picking some of the best features of the Big 3.

I suspect their plan is to have class leading features and performance at introduction. Then leave it pretty much alone for 14 years...

 

[86scotty]

If Toyota can get a solid chassis and driveline put together in one truck, and sprinkle a little Toyota reliability on top, it will be a winner. Hopefully they keep that 38 gallon tank and the stout cooling system too.

That is what Toyota does, above all else. I mean, when have they not?

On the tank I am not hopeful. I've never understood why every modern full size truck does not have a factory option for twin tanks or at least 50 gallons. Do OEM's not yet know what we use trucks for? There is room under every one of em.

 

[phsycle]

I suspect their plan is to have class leading features and performance at introduction. Then leave it pretty much alone for 14 years...

That’s Toyota. When the 2nd Gen tundra came out in 07, it was class leading tech with the 6-sp transmission, monstrous rear seat, sonar/parking tech, etc. Then all the R&D went to Camry’s and Prius.
2nd Gen Tacoma was a big hit too, with the modern V6 that far outperformed the Ranger, which ultimately is what took the crown away from the Ranger that year (along with its growth in size).
They’ve got enough resources to innovate much much sooner than these 15 year cycles. But it’s not their cash cow, which is why $ is diverted elsewhere. Domestics know this is where they shine, hence the 5-7 year refresh.

 

[phsycle]

That is what Toyota does, above all else. I mean, when have they not?

Seriously? Does frame rot ring a bell? Or that horrendous 3VZ 3.0 V6. I mean, I absolutely loved my first Gen Tacoma’s and 4Runners, but to say they had no dark times is very much incorrect.

 

[rruff]

On the tank I am not hopeful. I've never understood why every modern full size truck does not have a factory option for twin tanks or at least 50 gallons.

You don't think they'll keep 38 gal? Don't think they'd go backwards... unless the mpgs improve a lot.

I think I have enough room for 150 gal under my truck... ginormous amounts of empty space under there....

 

[Grassland]

Shame they kicked the can down the road some again without any hints of what kind of tech or features to expect.

I can't afford a Toyota anyway. They have similar MSRP to domestic, but that's the price you pay. No 5-10K off promotions that I've ever seen when I've looked at Toyota.

Did Ford Patent using something other than steel for body panels?

Wondering if Toyota couldn't just increase fuel economy by shedding some body weight, keep stout chassis, and add a couple gears to the transmission?

 

[Watt maker]

Love the 38 gallon fuel tank on my ‘17 tundra. Fuel tank size was one of the reasons I passed on getting a tundra back in 2012 and went with a f150 ecoboost with it‘s 36 gallon fuel tank. All the options, payload, down low torque, and towing numbers also swayed me. Loved that truck,....at first. On our first long trip out of town with it, it broke down, the first of many break downs unfortunately. Sometimes, simplicity is just better.

 

[rruff]

No 5-10K off promotions that I've ever seen when I've looked at Toyota.

I got ~$5k off on mine, off the lot (500 miles away!)... was $31,200 otd. F150s with similar spec were more. I was seriously considering getting a F250 or F350 recently, but discounts on everything are weak now. Lucky to get $1-2k. Might as well order and get exactly what you want.

 

[phsycle]

I can't afford a Toyota anyway. They have similar MSRP to domestic, but that's the price you pay. No 5-10K off promotions that I've ever seen when I've looked at Toyota.

That’s not my experience down here in the states. Factoring in average regional discounts, pricing for my old XLT and SR5, both similarly equipped was about a wash. This was back in 2015 when the new F150 came out. It was $37k ($48k MSRP) and the SR5 was $36k ($40k MSRP). Both large crew cab, 4wd. Pretty much the same options, except the Ford had a rear locker and 36 gallon tank.

 

[bkg]

That is what Toyota does, above all else. I mean, when have they not?

On the tank I am not hopeful. I've never understood why every modern full size truck does not have a factory option for twin tanks or at least 50 gallons. Do OEM's not yet know what we use trucks for? There is room under every one of em.

I think that's very much up for debate... very low gvwr ratings compared to others in their segment is one huge issue, IMHO. Other complaints are more subjective - wet noodle frame, aging transmission, aging engine.... I never had any complaints about the brakes or transfercase... but hated the mileage and the tow-haul mode that didn't work for crap in my '10 and '15.