Payload ratio

rruff

Explorer
I would safely guess 1.5 minimum…... im curious to hear what other think about this. I’m not a scientist, im just a working man.
The companies rely on prior experience quite alot... via lawsuits, warranty repairs, and failures that get publicized. Of course they do complex analysis and testing too, but as you can imagine the actual forces that the vehicle is subjected to can vary hugely, and weight is only one part of the equation.

If you load up to GVWR and blast across the desert ruts and whoops at high speed, that is a much more severe "test" than driving on the freeway. If you can learn from the experience of others, then do that... and if you regularly haul a load with a 1/2 ton, then definitely upgrade the suspension and tires, and make sure you understand your limitations and drive accordingly.
 

COAKXterra

Well-known member
The most extreme example would be a Power Wagon. Its axles, drivetrain, brakes, frames, is functionally identical to a 3500 dually. The only limiting factor is the suspension. In that case I won't blink an eye going over GVWR once the springs are upgraded, up to whatever a SRW 3500 is rated at.

Real world example here… our 18 PW fully loaded up to return home to AK after a year of living in the lower48. Kept heavy items centered and low as I could, but was still full up in backseat and bed/canopy. Got curious after filling up at a truck stop in Canada and ran across the scales.

Drove fine. Stopped fine. But it was also 3500mi of highway, mostly in the 60-65mph range and I knew I was heavy so I drove like it. Even in the northern Canadian Rockies, the twists of the mountain roads weren’t bad. The frost heaves were another horrific story so I tried not to drive at night so I could see them ahead of time. Overheating also inconclusive since it was -20 to -40 the whole time.

Long story short… I’m an open critic of the PW payload limitation, but also love the truck for everything else. Would I load to 900lbs above payload for a backcountry trip or US highway (80mph) trip? Probably not. Would I do it every day as a matter of course? Absolutely not. But I’m sure that our regular load for a big camping trip puts us right at or slightly above. I don’t cross axle limits nor tire limits, and try to keep sticker most of the time.

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Hunts

New member
I’m currently testing my payload with a 275 gallon water tank to see how my truck drives with the weight. Additionally measured the tailgate before and will measure again after to see the compression….filling it up as I write this post

Update: 3.75 inch reduction with 2,330lbs.
2.5 suspension reduction and 1.25 inch tire compression

Stock springs in a ram 2500, adding independent rear airbags this week.


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