Thanks. I like the Transit a lot but tow capacity was holding me back. I will check out those trailers.
Power Needed to Drag a Trailer Through the Backcountry
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TailLights
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I see the appeal of the smaller engine for better mpg, but keep in mind that goes out the window when you put that engine under a heavy load.
I’ve towed with a smaller turbo charged engine and felt like I was beating it senseless just driving around normally, and my mpg suffered similarly. The bigger engine will pull much easier, with less stress on it, and while pulling a load the mpg will end up very close to, or maybe better than the smaller engine.
If elevation is a consideration then a turbo or supercharger will help considerably. The naturally aspirated engine (even with its larger displacement) will start to struggle when it’s out of breath. I’ve heard good things about the ecoboost engine, it may prove to be durable over the long haul.
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I’ve towed with a smaller turbo charged engine and felt like I was beating it senseless just driving around normally, and my mpg suffered similarly. The bigger engine will pull much easier, with less stress on it, and while pulling a load the mpg will end up very close to, or maybe better than the smaller engine.
If elevation is a consideration then a turbo or supercharger will help considerably. The naturally aspirated engine (even with its larger displacement) will start to struggle when it’s out of breath. I’ve heard good things about the ecoboost engine, it may prove to be durable over the long haul.
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Remember……….there’s no replacement for displacement.
That having been said, 3.42 seems obnoxiously high for really any off road situation. I know it’s nice on the hwy, but 3.73 or 4.10 would be better off road. What transmission are you running 6L80E?
Assuming you’re considering GM, the 6.0/6.6 are only available in 3/4 ton & up chassis and the 6.6 is a Diesel………I know which one I would rather tow with.
That having been said, 3.42 seems obnoxiously high for really any off road situation. I know it’s nice on the hwy, but 3.73 or 4.10 would be better off road. What transmission are you running 6L80E?
Assuming you’re considering GM, the 6.0/6.6 are only available in 3/4 ton & up chassis and the 6.6 is a Diesel………I know which one I would rather tow with.
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Alloy
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Looking at the trailers you're considering it looks like the carrying capacity is 800lb-1000lbs.
Water at 8.3lbs/gal
Off road you pack more stuff so it doesn't take much to surpass the carrying capacity of these built (kitchen/washroom) out trailers.
Full waste tanks can take up 1/3-1/2 of the carrying capacity.
Something to think about when selecting horsepower.
Water at 8.3lbs/gal
Off road you pack more stuff so it doesn't take much to surpass the carrying capacity of these built (kitchen/washroom) out trailers.
Full waste tanks can take up 1/3-1/2 of the carrying capacity.
Something to think about when selecting horsepower.
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It's the 6l80E
The new gas engine (2021) is the 6.6L; they no longer offer the 6.6 duramax - every once in a while they do show up used. That would definitely fix any torque questions.
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Right, there's this heavier load/bigger engine/increased efficiency thing. I've heard that before. Elevation really isn't an issue for me.
Yes, load up that OBI dweller with full tanks, and if I have my figures right - you're getting pretty close to payload. That's a good figure - 8.3 lbs/gal - to keep in mind.
Grassland
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The 6.0 is a reliable engine I've heard, but thirsty.
A transfer case with low range would help tons compared to what you have now, and can always put steeper gearing in the van to help
Is there a forum for like landscaper or contractors who might be towing with 2500 6.9 vans you get get some highway experience from? It's not apples to apples but if guys are saying the van is tapped out towing 6k on the road it gives you an idea off the road
A transfer case with low range would help tons compared to what you have now, and can always put steeper gearing in the van to help
Is there a forum for like landscaper or contractors who might be towing with 2500 6.9 vans you get get some highway experience from? It's not apples to apples but if guys are saying the van is tapped out towing 6k on the road it gives you an idea off the road
My mistake, I was assuming pre-owned. If it’s a new 21, would it not come with the 10 speed or at least the 8? I thought the 6l80 was phased out when the LT platform replaced the LS.
I did an L96/6L80 swap in my JKU in 2020, it’s lifted on 35’s tips the scales @ 5800#’s average and is about as aerodynamic as a barn door. I get about 13.5 @ 70ish on the interstate. Currently running 3.73’s & it’s waaay overgeared. I think when I finally get around to swapping those for 4.10’s or 4.56’s it will improve some more. Thing is lugging around 1800 @ 70, & down around 1100 @ 45 on secondary roads.
The 6.0 is really not all that bad if you get a decent tune in it and keep it out of PE all the time. I was seeing AFR’s in the low 11’s before I had the new tune flashed.
billiebob
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3.42 with stock tires should be a good all around ratio. 3.73 is better loaded but if you have oversizes tires 4.10 might be a better choice.
billiebob
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THIS ^^^^ mpg is rated empty and on the EPA routing.
Loaded and off road especially with anything on the roof or in tow....the hyper milers are no better than the 7 liter engines