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I Leak Oil

Expedition Leader
I went into watching it with the mindset that it is just a TV show, nothing more. I found it interesting, it was good to put faces to names even if not in person and reaffirmed my desire to visit that area some day. And yes, I too found out how to pronounce the name Sinuhe.

Fault can be found, or can attempt to be found, in anything if you look hard enough. I personally choose to use my energy on more productive efforts. I could care less about the narrative and I'm sure those who went on the trip were more than qualified to use the hook as they did. Would love to see more of this type of thing....
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Rob,

There is nothing wrong with a properly rated hook for the load. Every new Warn and Superwinch, etc. ships with a hook.

That TJ hook is rated for more than light pulls, infact, it is rated to near frame-bending pulls. The Jeep engineer who field performance and load tested that hook was standing right there. I wont mention the MBS on that hook, as it is not for public consumption, but it is many times higher than GVWR.

It is just the spreading of misinformation that got my hackles up. . . some forum reader will look at your comment and think "I should remove these dangerous recovery points from my TJ". Nothing could be further from the truth.

I agree with that. I see a lot of "hook=death" comments posted all over the net, including here. Rover owners seem to be the worst culprits. Personally, I don't have a problem with them, and have used them to pull on Jeeps myself. As long as you're aware of their limitations, and act accordingly, I think they're fine. It's like anything else. I'd be more hesitant to use a farm store hook, but something from the Jeep factory... no problem.

My questions wasn't about the strength at all, even sideways strength. I just meant that when you're not pulling *into* the hook, the rope is at greater risk of slipping off.

I'm cool with a "Yeah, I know it wasn't ideal, but we didn't have a choice, everybody was standing clear, and we had a TV show to shoot so we took the chance."

When I said I gasped, it was mostly because I know how careful you are with providing advice on proper recovery, etc. So I was surprised they showed that. There wasn't even a "this could slip off and we could all die!" comment. ;)

I have driven the trail in question, and it is not so much a cliff to the right but a short drop that would result in multiple roll overs if you happened to go over it. You would survive, but your vehicle would not.

Ok, cool. I can see the camera not giving it justice. I was just looking for the "cliff".
 

Scott Brady

Founder
I do agree that I did not like the sideways pull on the brute, but was just thinking there might have not been room to get a straight on shot at it

There was no room, it had to be parked at an angle, right up against a 5' ledge. It was impressive that the BFGs held on the ice and snow.

Yep, it never looks as bad as it is.
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Here is a tent pic for you :D The Nemo stuff is sweet.
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Remember guys, this is television. Never assume that any clip or any audio outtake happened in the order shown.
 

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R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
So, we were rallying along a wide, dirt road, having a little fun. Lets call it spirited driving. . . The headlights on the Disco are held in place with little itty bitty ball and clips. Sinuhe was driving at a spirited pace too, and hit a ditch a little too hard and pop, goes the headlight.

But, unfortunately he didn't know that, and drove a few more miles with the headlight resting on the front bumper. Well, not exactly resting.

We had all stopped, and Sinuhe came rolling up some time later, with his headlight hanging from the harness like something out of mad max - we all had a good laugh, and he finished the trip as the one-eyed wonder.

Sounds exactly like what happened to my reverse/rear fog light. :elkgrin: The stupid clips holding it into the bumper let go at some point on a 5 hour trip, and the light was dangling from the wiring. Unfortunately... right in front of the exhaust outlet! The damn thing melted!
 

barlowrs

Explorer
I didn't think the Disco came off bad at all. The mere fact that it was on the same route as the other, much more built trucks, made it look good. Not to mention the fact it was often leading the way.

+1...that little disco impressed the hell out of me...yeah, you had monster jeeps with monster tires and monster engines plowing though the track, but that disco was RIGHT there with them, usually leading the way! :smiley_drive: just because it doesn't look as big and mean as the others (I love how it looks, very expedition-ish) the fact is, it was still there, holding on with the rest. The rig was excellent and obviously, to keep up with the larger beasts, so was the driving. (everyones drivign was good, not knocking anyone!)

Great job Sinuhe! (Great job everyone)
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
I think it shows the real capability of a lighter built truck. Sure, if you've got a 3 foot shelf to climb, you're going to have to winch. But, so what, that's why you brought a winch! But other than the real hard bits, a light truck can keep up (especially if it's a Land Rover! :D ). You don't need 38" tires and a 4" lift to run a lot of trails. And, the Land Rover didn't have to be trailered to the trail. ;)
 

XJBANKER

Explorer
Next time you head to any of those Southern Utah areas, let me know and I am in...... i know I am way down the list of poeple to invite, but when my turn arrives let me know :victory:
 

kcowyo

ExPo Original
I've done my fair share of southern Utah, and Lockhart is the only trail I've suffered any body damage from. When I saw the team was going to try it in snow, I knew it was going to be good viewing!

I think Dave Harriton deserves mad props for taking six figures worth of his vehicles on the trip in those conditions. Most others certainly would have taken a raincheck. I hope his insurance carrier wasn't watching last night, lol!

Shame the weather prohibited seeing much of the scenery, but I understand the show was about focusing on the vehicles. Glad to see the Brute back and getting some publicity - an amazing machine.

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Well done guys. It was as good an excuse as any to go home and watch an hour of TeeVee :)

I had to wonder how many Jeep marketing guys were watching and hoping that there wasn't too big a deal made of the ten year old nearly stock looking Disco either leading or at least keeping up with the mucho dinero Alphabet (X...J...F...P...Q..whatever) Jeeps.

You could probably talk me into swaping the 109 for one of them "Brute" things.....
;)

Cheers,

KAA
 
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