Project: E350 Dual Sport

BaseCamp

Observer
On the note with body lifts. I looked at an e350 eb that was lifted using a 3 inch body lift, he was able to fit 33's under it pretty easily. Upon further inspection, there were multiple broken bolts, etc, it was a hell trap on wheels, like ujoint said, it would be hard to make it work.
 

RocKrawler

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On the note with body lifts. I looked at an e350 eb that was lifted using a 3 inch body lift, he was able to fit 33's under it pretty easily. Upon further inspection, there were multiple broken bolts, etc, it was a hell trap on wheels, like ujoint said, it would be hard to make it work.
Yeah, I figured there was a reason not more people were doing it, and I have learned to listen to those more experienced than I, so when Chris recommended against it I stopped considering the option.
 

cowboy4x4

Explorer
I put a 3 inch body lift on my van I had awhile ago. It was a 1986 ford, It was super easy to do and I wheeled it up in Big bear and many other places,Off camber whoops and anything else I could throw at it. It went any where my friends suburban went I never had a single problem with it. If someone is going to lift a rust bucket then they deserve what happens to them. Body lifts got a bad rap many years ago from bone heads doing stupid things with them. I've been wheeling for 32 years with over 40 different vehicles, you can do anything you want if you build it safe and proper and use your head. JMO... Thomas
 

RocKrawler

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The van developed a fuel leak that was dumping raw fuel into the engine valley, which flowed nicely down the back of the motor, through the drain holes and into the bell housing and out the bottom through the inspection cover. It started a couple weeks ago with a drip here & there & slight hint of raw diesel fuel smell, and progressed up to the end of this week with a 6" diameter wet spot & very strong fuel smell constantly. The doghouse was pulled and pooled fuel could be seen in the engine valley, but as things are so cramped it could not be determined where it was coming from. A call was placed to one of my suppliers to order a fuel pump, and to dieselorings.com to get all of the o-rings, banjo bolt gaskets and fuel short blue fuel lines to replace everything that could potentially leak in the fuel bowl, lines, and valley. I also added Fumoto oil drain valve to the order from Bob at Dieselorings.com to make future maintenance easier. I had one on the F250 and really liked the ease of draining the oil without removing the drain plug, and it never leaked.
So yesterday I enlisted Vince at work to lead the charge on the fuel system because I had never tackled anything of this complexity needing to finish in one day. It took both of us from 9:30 am to 8:53pm to finish the job, with breaks for lunch and dinner. Off the back the turbo, the y-pipe up tubes and plumbing were removed, followed by the fuel pump. Up front the alternator, pulley block and air intake assembly with filters and hoses were removed to gain access to the fuel bowl feed lines. Then the fuel bowl was removed from the rear and everything assessed for cause. The fuel pump was wet, as was the sensor coming off the side of the fuel pressure regulator (which I found out commonly leaks and should be replaced when tearing onto the fuel system like this) and the banjo bolt was wet that holds the line splitter that feed fuel from the fuel bowl to the injector banks at the rear of each cylinder head. There was raw fuel pooled on the top of the engine valley so that was cleaned off, and the bottom hose from the pump to fuel bowl was in really bad shape. I opted for the better flourosilicone mil-spec o-rings for the fuel bowl because I only wanted to have to do this job once, and the new ULSD (ultra low sulfur diesel) fuel is much harder on the factory o-rings.. The entire kit, including the Fumoto valve and turbo pedestal o-rings was $70 shipped. The pump was $78 my cost (retails at about $120), lunch & dinner was about $38 for both of us, and I'm paying Vince for his time and very valuable work and knowledge. I had a copy of the Ford FSM on hand for reference, and for those questions not answered in the book, Bob at dieselorings.com said I could call anytime to get help if I needed it. It was amazing to have his expertise a phone call away on a Sunday to help with the job. I strongly recommend him and his company for all of your o-ring needs. Replacing everything on the fuel bowl took about 30 minutes once it was out, and man did it need a thorough cleaning. The inside of the fuel bowl was insanely dirty, the fuel filter was brown, and many of the o-rings looked very beat. The screen on the bypass valve was also caked with crud. The most amazing part of our findings to me was the turbo itself - on one side the housing, between the aluminum body for the impeller and the turbo itself, there are 4 bolts holding the assembly together. Of those 2 were tight, one was backed off 1/16" and spinning freely, and the 4th had backed all the way out and was laying on the pedestal. I'm glad we found and corrected this!
Aside from the regular tools most everyone would have, a 7/8" crows foot socket was needed to remove the center post in the fuel bowl in order to get the heater assembly out and clean everything thoroughly. Having seen it done I could have tackled it myself but it was so involved that I would have not been the same person when finished. Vince lends a level of calm and control to a project that is worth the price of admission. After buttoning everything back together it instantly fired up and ran, rough at first (the fuel bowl was empty after all) and in about a minute it was idling much smoother than it ever had. No raw fuel was detected, so I packed up and headed home. I'm hoping that going out this morning will provide dry ground under the van and a solution to the problem. Again, it was not a difficult job, but very lengthy and involved because of the tight quarters in the compartment (that body lift is sounding better every day). We found and solved other issues that were unknown when we started, and I'm very glad this project is done. Everything we touched should be good to go for at least another 276K miles.
 

Loopie

Adventurer
Yeah, I figured there was a reason not more people were doing it, and I have learned to listen to those more experienced than I, so when Chris recommended against it I stopped considering the option.
There are more than a couple Astro/Safari's running around with welded on steel "risers" that retain the stock body mount hardware (eliminating concerns about using longer bolts like in a conventional BL).
Like this...the stock mount hardware is moved up to the top of the riser.
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RocKrawler

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There are more than a couple Astro/Safari's running around with welded on steel "risers" that retain the stock body mount hardware (eliminating concerns about using longer bolts like in a conventional BL).
Like this...the stock mount hardware is moved up to the top of the riser.

Hmmm....
 

RocKrawler

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About a week ago I learned, much to my surprise, that people that work in tire shops sometimes don't have the customers best interest in mind when making sales (who'd have thunk it?) Evidently the previous owner (a very kind older lady that ran a preschool daycare service, to which my van was the "bus) had tires put on and thought everything was fine. I was prepping for my cross country trip and while filling the tires to the proper pressure per the doorjamb tag, decided (thankfully) to look at the tires weight rating as I was filling. The first thing I noticed was the "P" in front of the size - red alert. Then looked at the "max load" rating in the fine print (harder to see each year) and noticed "12xxlbs at 35psi" - the fact that the tire size was a 255 instead of the OE 225 just capped the fact that someone sold her the wrong tires that were a huge safety risk. Aside from a post looking for the correct capacity tires here & on other forums, a local tire shop ended up supplying me with a used set of Bridgestone 245's in the required E load rating for $153 mounted and balanced. I negotiated a deal with them that if they provided a matching size spare I'd give them my old tires (I wasn't about to trust them even for a spare with my upcoming load on) and they agreed, good thing for me. The spare was pulled and holy crap was it cupped and cracked! The tire was the correct 245 size to match the ones just installed, but when the tire was being dismounted the small "weather cracks" on the sidewall opened up much deeper than the tread, I'd bet that if there were a light in the tire it would have shined through in spots - scary. Good to know its now safe for the trip. I didn't want to sink in big money for new rubber with the U-Joint conversion in the short term plans because they are going to get replaced with appropriate size new rubber at that time.
We finished getting the cushy leather captains chairs installed, so now its first class seating with several feet of legroom for each of the 4 rear seats, the rear row with a nice center console with drink holders and a cooler built in, so now 6 travel in style instead of the extremely cramped bench seating for 11 - the family is very happy!
I also found a large aluminum cargo/construction rack up in Baltimore over last weekend with an 800lb load rating. I went ahead and drove up & bought/installed it to carry cargo up top on the way back west. The rack is modular so it can be left at full length (11'-3") or knocked down to half size. I'll post up a pic for opinions, I think it looks too utilitarian right now, but shot flat or semigloss black it might look a lot better. For what I paid I'll easily be able to break even on it if I decide to resell it later.
The last thing I got for the trip is a tow dolly to hook to the van so I can pull my daughters 94 Ranger 4x4 X-Cab - we got an almost new shell for it so I can load it full & hook it to the dolly as a small moving trailer. It will help lessen the load (& cost) of the moving service we are using for all the big stuff. The PO put on new tires, lights, front hitch and bearings and I had to buy new straps to fit the 31" tires on the Ranger, so it should be solid ready to go. This is stacking up to be quite the paved adventure, and since we are taking the southern route its all fresh, albeit bland, scenery from last years trip east.
 

RocKrawler

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I landed a pair of new takeoff battery boxes for the frame rails for $62 shipped off ebay today, that should give me some extra juice on the weekend trips.
 

Toolman

Explorer
good find. I found one ebay also for $25 plus shipping. They mount up pretty easy as long as you have all the mounting hardware. The dealer charges $142 each. You just saved yourself a bundle of money.
 

RocKrawler

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The battery boxes arrived in excellent condition today, and I found a set of telescoping power towing mirrors that I was watching on e-bay that didn't get the opening $125.99 + s/h bid before closing. I emailed and offered $100 plus shipping and he accepted, so those are supposed to ship tomorrow from PA. They are new OEM Ford units, called the local stealership and at $380ea. retail, I got a great deal on them I think at $132 to my door for the pair.

The wife and I have been discussing at length the pop-up vs. fixed high roof option for months now and we were hoping to meet up with Lance in AZ on our way through to help make the decision easier. Scheduling conflicts prevented that as we were running a day behind, but thanks to lots of pics from CCV on this forum of both setups, we have settled on the fixed high roof (like Lances) to keep things simple, reliable and stealthy. We feel it will allow better insulation, security, and lower cost of ownership both initially and long term. We plan to incorporate the CCV 8" drop bunk design to maximize interior space when the bed is deployed, making it more user friendly for the tall kids I possess.
 

BajaBus

Adventurer
I landed a pair of new takeoff battery boxes for the frame rails for $62 shipped off ebay today, that should give me some extra juice on the weekend trips.

Did I mention that I hate you Terry? :sombrero: I think I paid the Ford stealership more TAX than that! grrrr...
 

RocKrawler

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Its odd that they just popped up the day after you posted you bought new ones because you couldn't wait... I cant afford the batteries yet but also couldn't afford to pass up 2 for $62 shipped. Then the telescoping tow mirrors popped up the day the battery boxes arrived at my door. Its not often things come together that smoothly for me back to back, but I love it when it does!
 

BajaBus

Adventurer
Its odd that they just popped up the day after you posted you bought new ones because you couldn't wait... I cant afford the batteries yet but also couldn't afford to pass up 2 for $62 shipped. Then the telescoping tow mirrors popped up the day the battery boxes arrived at my door. Its not often things come together that smoothly for me back to back, but I love it when it does!

Terry, remind me what kind of batteries you're going to get? I tested my setup when I got home by leaving the ARB running for 2-1/2 days and all was fine so I'm not sure just how much more capacity there was. I do wish I had run 0 gauage wire from the batteries to inverter though.
 

RocKrawler

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I leave my ARB on 24/7 with stock batteries and never have an issue. I plan on running Optima yellow tops at all locations unless the lottery hits, then I'll run Odyssey. I have a small inverter I'll keep up front, and will eventually add a larger unit like yours in the rear of the vehicle when everything else is caught up.
With the new ARB fridges you will never end up with a dead battery because of the built in low voltage shutoff protection, another reason I chose to upgrade from the previous style ARB I had before - very happy with the new unit!
 

RocKrawler

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My e-bay purchased OEM Ford telescoping tow mirrors showed up today, hopefully will be able to put them on this week & report back on fitment on a 97 van - the ones I got were off a 2004 per the part number and verification with the local dealership parts department. I scored them for $100 plus shipping
 

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