Propane Storage

Alloy

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National fire code only allows manufacturers of RVs to mount propane tanks underneath or at the front.
 

PCO6

Adventurer
Alloy - Does that mean that in Canada, a set up similar to the one shown in post #30 would not be permitted? I see it done often and never questioned it.
 

Alloy

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Alloy - Does that mean that in Canada, a set up similar to the one shown in post #30 would not be permitted? I see it done often and never questioned it.
None of this gets as far as being permitted or controlled. There are only 2 times I know of it even being questioned. One was a person carry several jerry cans on a rear hitch cargo tray. The other was people being questioned about jerry cans at the back or inside the back of a vehicle at the Can/US border.

One should consider libility in the case of a rear end accident. The accident will be the other person's fault but one can will be liable if the combustible fuel causes damage or loss of life....and there is the Hazmat clean up that can be $$$$$.

Canada follows the US fire code for RVs
 
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billiebob

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None of this gets as far as being permitted or controlled. There are only 2 times I know of it even being questioned. One was a person carry several jerry cans on a rear hitch cargo tray. The other was people being questioned about jerry cans at the back or inside the back of a vehicle at the Can/US border.

One should consider libility in the case of a rear end accident. The accident will be the other person's fault but one can will be liable if the combustible fuel causes damage or loss of life....and there is the Hazmat clean up that can be $$$$$.

Canada follows the US fire code for RVs
Add BC Coastal and Inland Ferries to the list. The restrictions on ferries in BC are very restrictive and always enforced.

Gasoline / Diesel: 1 jerrycan of no more than 25 liters.

For Toy Haulers, Skidoo Trailer this one gets a lot of people stopped, especially during winter snow mobile season. If you are lucky and in the ferry lineup, you might get 5 gallons of free gas since you can carry as many empty gas cans as you want.
Gasoline / Diesel: 2 jerrycans of no more than 50 liters for ATV's, 1 jerrycan of 25 liters for pulling vehicle(75 liter max total). Factory on -board tank filled to manufactures labeled capacity.

I've never seen any requirement on where you can store/carry fuel with BC Ferries or how it must be secured and there are plenty of guys with the exterior 5# or 10# propane bottles on the side or rear of their trailers or 20# bottles on the roof, jerry cans too.

If you are carrying more than those quantities they have 2 Dangerous Goods Ferries a day when you can cross.
 
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PCO6

Adventurer
Thanks guys. Interesting information. As for permissions, controls, etc., in Ontario my guess is that the authorities will crack down on poorly built and/or maintained trailers before they tackle the details like this. They should as it's currently pretty bad. As for liability, I get that. Like one of the posters said above, I carry a few of the green cylinders in my Trasheroo which is not ideal but I think better then in my Jeep. I also have a couple of 5 lb. cylinders on the tongue of my trailer. Everything is between the vehicle/trailer which I guess is as good as I can get it short of putting it on the roof … and hoping I don't roll it!
 

Alloy

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Add BC Coastal and Inland Ferries to the list. The restrictions on ferries in BC are very restrictive and always enforced.

Gasoline / Diesel: 1 jerrycan of no more than 25 liters.

For Toy Haulers, Skidoo Trailer this one gets a lot of people stopped, especially during winter snow mobile season. If you are lucky and in the ferry lineup, you might get 5 gallons of free gas since you can carry as many empty gas cans as you want.
Gasoline / Diesel: 2 jerrycans of no more than 50 liters for ATV's, 1 jerrycan of 25 liters for pulling vehicle(75 liter max total). Factory on -board tank filled to manufactures labeled capacity.

I've never seen any requirement on where you can store/carry fuel with BC Ferries or how it must be secured and there are plenty of guys with the exterior 5# or 10# propane bottles on the side or rear of their trailers or 20# bottles on the roof, jerry cans too.

If you are carrying more than those quantities they have 2 Dangerous Goods Ferries a day when you can cross.

All this applies to portable fuel containers and not to tanks that are built (gas tank in a Toy Hauler) in. BC Ferries calls them "integral". This is why I installed a 100lb ASME propane tank and can carry an auxiliary tank in the truck.

I cap/plug all my tanks. Quite a few times I've found them to serve a purpose so I carry spare plugs and caps.
 

billiebob

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The case should contain any leakage that got past the cap and bottle valve while driving.
A 1 pound propane container holds 9 cubic feet of propane. A pelican case is not going to contain anything.
The caps might be a good idea but I doubt they are certified to contain the propane.
 

Alloy

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Been eyeing these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...d_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee&th=1

With these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KYHNJ6Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Kept in an old pelican case, not vented, I have lying around. The case should contain any leakage that got past the cap and bottle valve while driving.

I hand tighten the caps/plugs I use. Never smell any propane and when I undo the cap plug there's been a release of pressure many times. If the bottles roll around the caps can come loose.

There was a post on here somewhere that said the seals on the 1lbs tank are not very durable which limits the number of refills.
 

F350joe

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A 1 pound propane container holds 9 cubic feet of propane. A pelican case is not going to contain anything.
The caps might be a good idea but I doubt they are certified to contain the propane.
If its leaking that much you will know before you put in there. If the valve completely failed you would hear plastic crack or maybe put a propane sniffer in the case.
 

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