I don't care what the process is, its still a USED tire that has a new tread physically glued on. Like I said, on a non licenced off road rig, seeing slow speeds and what not...sure, on a rig driving on the highways etc. they should be illegal. Blow out from a poor "glue" and I have a 70mph projectile in the form of some cheap ***'es rig flying at me and my family. There is NO WAY that these retreads are as structurally sound as a complete new tire. I call bull**** on anyone who says otherwise.
Recaps, re-treads or what ever you call them for a JKU
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comptiger5000
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The treads aren't exactly glued on. There's a little more to the process than that. I definitely agree with not trusting them for high speed runs in hot weather, etc. For a rig that spends most of its time on the trail and doesn't see much high speed road use, go for it. Especially if it's a rig where you're aging-out tires or tearing them up in rocks before wearing them out.
I was using that as a quick analogy of what they do. Its not molded into the tire at the time of tire creation like a REAL tire.
ihatemybike
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Thank you for your useful contribution.
What about the guy who has new tires and has a blow out? Are you going to be less angry after the collision? I mean afterall he didn't cheap out on his tires...
ihatemybike
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A pound of weight? Yikes!
Please provide us with more detail.
Make/model/size? Carcass make/models?
Have you contacted the company about them being that far out of balance?
Please provide us with more detail.
Make/model/size? Carcass make/models?
Have you contacted the company about them being that far out of balance?
unkamonkey
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Everybody can have their opinion. As said before, I have never had an issue with recaps, only new tires. I have left parts of two "New" out by Grand Junction. I went to the shop that sold me the tires. For some reason they didn't sell that brand anymore. Tire pressure wil play an important role in throwing a tread or having a tire caught on fire when used as a dual situation. We didn't have XRay stuff back in the day, we just put the carcass on a tire spreader and poked around with a screwdriver to check for cord seperation. I still have recaps on the Buick that were done in 1973. Nothing I own is driven above 50 MPH. As an aside, a few years ago F1 and Indy cars used to run recaps. They knew they had a good carcass and could put on the rubber compound they wanted.
hansrober
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Mine were 285R70/17s Wardens on Toyo cores. After contacting Treadwright about the problem, they sent a new set tires but the wrong size. I didn't find this out until the tire shop I was using unwrapped them and called me. That was just to much work for a set of tires. I called my adventure buddy who needed new tires for his old Dakota camping truck and had the new wrong size tires mounted on his rig. They still took a pound of weight a tire, but they only cost him mounting and balancing. Treadwright didn't want the first 285r70/17s back so I still have 4. I might use them on a cheap project in the future if I cant give them away
My first set of treadwrights on BFG cores did great. That was before the factory moved to Texas. The company did try to make it right but thats just to much aggravation. I bought new BFGs in the end and from now on I will buy new.
My first set of treadwrights on BFG cores did great. That was before the factory moved to Texas. The company did try to make it right but thats just to much aggravation. I bought new BFGs in the end and from now on I will buy new.
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unkamonkey
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Let's just say I worked in a recap shop for a few years back when I was young and I learned a bit while I was there. The tread isn't glued on, it is vulcanized to the carcass. Steam and air pressure.
Of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, It is a public forum after all.
Of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, It is a public forum after all.
Tennmogger
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I have had to replace 10 tires on several trailers in the last 5 years. All were new when mounted, non re-cap, and no more than 5 years old when failed. All were Chinese. Failures included blowouts and delaminations. One tire had been the spare and had 100 miles on it when it blew out. I'd take a good USA recap anytime.
(There are no recaps available in my 'truck' tire sizes, so no experience)
(There are no recaps available in my 'truck' tire sizes, so no experience)
hansrober
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I was really impressed with my first set of recaps on my jeep. I did a lot of hard miles in them, on and off road. The second set not so much. My local tire shop can overcome and resolve problems in the same day. I don't think mail order tire shopping is for me. Its to much hassle when thing do not go right.
RubiconGeoff
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I really loved my 315/70R17 Treadwright Guard Dogs (with Kedge Grip) on my JKUR. I put ~25,000 miles on them before I sold them with about 50% treadlife remaining. Mine were on BFG A/T KO casings. My only complaint with them was how loud they were, right from new, in spite of OCD tire rotations. I would have bought a 2nd set, but I enjoy trying out different tires. My current set is the Cooper S/T Maxx in the same size. I haven't tried them in all the same types of terrain yet that I saw with the Treadwrights, but so far the only significant difference I've noticed is slightly better wet road traction and much, much less tread noise. If you want quiet tires, don't get the Guard Dogs. If you don't care about that, I highly recommend them.
The chance of a new tire blowing out compared to a re cap blowing out is FAR less....again no thanks...keep them to off road rigs and real tires for street driving to keep my family safe...thanks!
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