RTT Advice or Opinions

campinglab

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0018
the rack's pretty light, probably around 60 pounds, but if all you're going to put up there is the tent then maybe there's no need for the whole rack?

Setting the 1600 to open towards the back could be a problem on the trail though since it would overhang quite a bit off both sides of the roof.

i don't see the roof of the Disco been more than maybe 45" wide or so and the 1600 opening towards the back would be 63" wide so pretty much 9" wider on each side.

Just something to keep in mind.
 

SFDiscoII

New member
the rack's pretty light, probably around 60 pounds, but if all you're going to put up there is the tent then maybe there's no need for the whole rack?

Setting the 1600 to open towards the back could be a problem on the trail though since it would overhang quite a bit off both sides of the roof.

i don't see the roof of the Disco been more than maybe 45" wide or so and the 1600 opening towards the back would be 63" wide so pretty much 9" wider on each side.

Just something to keep in mind.


Good point on the width, off the side will make most sense. I guess that seals the deal on the rack. No reason to get it for me if I cannot use the front from the tent.

Thanks,
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Go up there and measure your roof width. I'm pretty sure it's much closer to 60" wide. I was actually just looking at this last night to see how my 64" wide Maggiolina would fit on top. It depends on what your definition of roof width is. The rack rails are maybe only about 45" wide, but at the gutters, I believe it's more than 60".

Wish I could remember more clearly, but I've got so many dimensions swimming up in my head right now because of the trailer I'm building, and I was also measuring the minivan.
 

rroadkilll

Needs a LIFE!
I'm glad I stumbled upon this thread...

I'm looking to purchase a RTT for a trip from Cape Cod MA to Cali, in the summer of 2010...

I'm looking to purchase in the winter/spring after I find out where I'm going to be told where to move!!!

Keep up the opinions, I need to know my options also...
 

Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
Brand new addition to AutoHome Accessories - a larger changing room...

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I went through this decision making process a few months ago. I was strongly looking at both that you mention, and for the same reasons. Not being able to see either of them in person, I was siding with the Autohome products because of my perception that the Autohome stuff is much more modern in design and materials, and probably better made in Italy vs. South Africa. The South African products seem to have "old world" construction, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but, isn't the best either.

I ended up going with a Maggiolina for a number of reasons:

1) Faster setup
2) Percieved durability of the "shell" vs. the soft tents
3) Percieved much more likely to stay dry with a fiberglass top than the soft tents
4) Reputation for being warmer
5) Better mattress
6) Reputation for better performance in winds. The soft tents supposedly "flap" in the wind, and I know this would drive me NUTS at night.

I plan to solve the wet entry/exit problem with a deployable tarp. You can use an awning with the Maggiolina, there are some details on the Autohome Blog.

Basically, wet entry/exit was the only problem I could see with the Maggiolina, and I find it's easily solved. I like the idea of having a "modular" setup where I choose what I want to deploy or not, depending on circumstances. If the weather is nice, I can be in bed in 2 mintues with the Mag. If it's going to rain, deploy the tarp, etc.

The soft tents take longer to setup, and are sort of an "all or nothing" approach.
 

Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
I have well over 200 nights in one Eezi-Awn (a 1200), including nearly a month below freezing and one night at -57F. I do not believe there is a better constructed RTT on the market. Other tents do have great features, and some set-up faster than the Eezi-Awn. Just look for what suits you best.

Make sure you get long-term test feedback on any tent you are considering. These tents need to get up over 100 nights before most will show any signs of wear, etc.

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Parked on the frozen Arctic Ocean. Temps were -33F

Ezi-Awn is one of the best tents of it;s type. But it seems like a poor practice for a magazine publisher and 'supermod' to recommend one vendor's product over another's. Is this a publication policy?

Mike S
AutoHomeUSA
 
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Lemsteraak

Adventurer
Ok, sounds like you are going out in PNW weather.

I think you also need to factor in the cold. One thing that RTTs do is they can extend your camping season. I personally camp in the winter, the crowds here in California are a little unnerving.

I've had several RTTs, everything from the ancient Air Camping tent, to the Maggiolina, even used a Hannibal once. I currently have a Columbus, because I'm headed into the SouthEast in summer, high humidity and lots of thunderstorms. I'm also very biased toward the AutoHome tents, I know them well, but pretty much all the RTTs these days are good, you really can't go too far astray. Some may fit your personal needs better than others.

A couple thoughts, you will want an awning of some sort. I always think it is a good idea to mix and match. I think MSR and Keltys are really good values. I'm not a big fan of the dedicated RTT awnings, too confining for the way I camp. I like to be able to move my awning and I like them really big so I can put it up over a table or have it go to the ground in high winds. It can always shelter the RTT if you need it to.

If you are going into cold weather, like below freezing, the Maggiolina is pretty hard to beat. I was with a buddie in the Copper Canyon in the winter, I had my folding fabric OverCamp and he had a Maggiolina. I froze with two sleeping bags, he was comfortable with one. I will try to borrow one if I'm headed out in really cold weather.

If you go with a folding fabric tent, make sure the ridge poles are insulated. I always get a little condensation in them and the Hannibal I used had condensation on the ridgepoles and it dripped on me all night, really annoying, but otherwise a good tent. Some of the folding tents have winter hoods that will turn them into four season tents, never tried one but look good for really nasty weather.

Folding tents tend to be a little more of a pain to close in the morning. There isn't usually a way to dry them, just scrape the ice off. My hands tend to get really cold so I'll just throw the cover on, drive a little to warm up and then cinch down the cover better when I warm up. The Maggiolina wins hands down here, you just thump on the outside fabric and the water flicks off and then close. I would always stop later if it is sunny to air out the tent. Opens fast so easy to do on a break. When it is wet, you will get water in the tent. A feature of the Columbus and Maggiolina is that they have channels under the mattress for the water to collect in. Even if your mattress gets wet, it isn't bad because the water will drain out. If you look under the mattress, you will see a little water always collecting down there. In best of conditions, you will get some condensation forming in cold weather, even though the base is insulated. I was able to get this mesh to put under the mattress that allows a little air to flow, really makes a huge difference in comfort. I'm curious to see how well it works out in the high humidity in the southeast.

You really can't go wrong with any of them because you can adapt them to your needs. After I said all these rational reasons on how to choose a tent, I need to mention this, sometimes you don't always have a choice. I have a Columbus, for my wife, she thinks the folding tents are camping, she doesn't camp, she like to have her quilt and stuff. She doesn't like the Maggiolina because in the middle of the night she has to get up and go. It is easier for her to put on her pants because it has a lot of headroom. I have a Columbus because she will come with me, simple decision.

Rich H
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
Rich, one of the reasons I bought the Maggiolina was I read up on how warm they are.
I am up here in the PNW where it rains a lot too and summer nights can get cold at high elevation.

I am planning on doing some winter camping this year in it, same spot this photo was taken two Mays ago.
Foothills of Mt. Rainier.
 

Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
If you keep the tent doors zippered closed, there will be zero water invasion. Water gets in when the tent is folded wet (which is OK) and the doors are OPEN. When they are closed, the water stays on the outside.

Hard shell tents have a gasket seal, and will not admit any water when traveling if the latches are adjusted for a firm fit when secured.

M
 

Corey

OverCamping Specialist
I can confirm that.
We had a very nasty winter here in Western WA. with snow, ice, and lots of rain.
My tent was closed up the whole time and parked outside full time.

When I opened up my tent come spring to fluff/shake the down comforter and wash the flannel sheets, nothing was wet, no smell, and no dust/dirt inside.
 

SFDiscoII

New member
Ezi-Awn is one of the best tents of it;s type. But it seems like a poor practice for a magazine publisher and 'supermod' to recommend one vendor's product over another's. Is this a publication policy?

Mike S
AutoHomeUSA

Mike,

I am sure Scott can defend himself, if needed. However i figured I would chime in with my thoughts.

His magazine did review RTT's a while back and I think it was the Techni Top that was picked as the winner. It looks like Scott prefers the Eezi Awn. Not sure what that means other than there are several people involved with the magazine and testing and he can express a personal opinion seperate to the opinion in the magazine.

They did not review the tents I am looking at which are the Overzone, Eezi Awn T top and possibly the Maggolia. So I figured I would post and learn from the overland community at large.

I like the look of your new changing room Maggolia.
Is that currently availble in stock?
How does this attach to the tent?
How much does it cost?

Keep the opinions an ideas coming, it's a big purchase and would like to learn from everyones experiences. I only want to buy one that will last and meet my needs.

Thanks,
 

Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
SFDiscoII

The new changing room was just announced. It has been added to a current order that will load for shipping next week. We expect delivery about the end of July, beginning of August. Pricing has not been set but I should have that in a day or two. Be happy to e-mail to you soon as it is set.

The changing room attaches under the edge of the upper shell, between the fabric and the shell. There are two loops that engage a cross pole, which is held snugly in the space between the fabric and the shell. Erects quickly.

This product, like the insulated tent platform, low ceiling and 3-1/2" thick CCF mattress, is intended to further answer the issue of shelter and comfort in bad weather.

AutoHome has a long history of innovation in RTTs and they are constantly improving the products - with a strong input on North American requirements from us here at AutoHomeUSA.
 

Scott Brady

Founder
Is this a publication policy?

Yes. In every issue of Overland Journal, we recommend one product over another with our Editor's Choice awards.

Ezi-Awn is one of the best tents of it;s type. But it seems like a poor practice for a magazine publisher and 'supermod' to recommend one vendor's product over another's.

In the case of this thread, I did not recommend one product over another, just shared my experience with one of the manufacturers the OP was interested in. I believe reports from users is critical to the decision process, just as specifications and attributes are.

While I have dozens of nights in Autohome tents, I do not have a hundred, or two-hundred nights in them. Maybe someone else can chime in on their long-term experiences. The Autohome is an excellent product - one of the best of breeds in RTTs.
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Will it be available in Safari colours, and what height is it designed to accomodate? My Mag will be mounted about 66" off the ground.
 

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