Samurai Motorhome Build Thread

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
I'm sure that the audience for this tongue-in-check thread is vanishingly small, but bandwidth here don't cost nuthin' and perhaps there's one member who's spent long hours wondering, "How can I make a cushy camper out of my Samurai.

The logic behind this is a little convoluted. Basically, the Sami used to look like this:

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with a Bestop bimini top, Windjammer back piece and tonneau cover over the bed. Looks good enough and is pretty convenient, but if it gets rained on, five gallons of water will collect in a pool on the tonneau cover. And since it rained just a bit this winter, I decided to also get the full Bestop replacement top and the associated hardware to enclose the whole area. Then, two weeks back, when we took the Sprinter to Eastern Oregon and pulled the Sami for the back roads:

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I decided to do the experiment to see if you could make an enclosed sleeping compartment comfortable enough to spend the nights in. Turns out you can. :victory:

First make Base A out of 3/4 inch boards.

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( BTW, I'm happy to supply dimensions but it's pretty obvious and the tolerances are huge. Though I'm sure New Yankee Workshop types could make this hyper-elegant.)

Then make Base B out of the same 3/4 inch material. The cross brace is off-center so that the smaller area could be used for storage.

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Then make these guys (Tops A, B and C, left to right) out of whatever the home center sells as finished 24x48 handi-panels about a half-inch thick:

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When take the headrest off the passenger seat (there's a metal clip that holds it on) and the plastic cover over the outboard recliner mechanism (one phillips screw in the center). Then recline the passenger's seat as flat as possible after moving the seat all the way forward. Don't use the underseat adjuster to move it forward; it won't move the seat forward far enough. Instead, use the recliner lever and the "easy entry" feature to slide the seat all the way forward before reclining.

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(By the way, if you are among the small proportion of owners who still have the rear seat in because you transport extremely diminutive people with extremely short legs, you obviously have to remove the rear seatlette.)

Now put Base A over the passenger's seat, with the angle you cut matching the incline in the driveshaft tunnel and the square hole fitting over the seat recline. Try not to mash the rubber boots on the tranny and t-case shifters any more than necessary, and make sure that the outboard edge sits square on the floor; it's a tight fit.

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Then put Base B into the back between the wheel wheels. Positioning is not critical yet.

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Now lay Tops A, B and C onto the two supporting bases. Put the narrow end of Top A as far forward as it will go; the cutout is to go around the center console so you can pick up a few more inches of length.

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It's not absolutely necesssary to screw the tops down, but the lightweight panels have enough warp that the don't mesh up perfectly. If you're anal (and I inarguably am) you'll want to put a minimal number of screws (1 1/2 inch number 10 square drives in my case) through the panels into the bases. I used seven; two diagonally through Top A into Base A, one through the front outboard edge of Top B into Base A, two through the rear edge of Top B into Base B and two through the front edge of Top C into Base B. Obviously, doing this makes the relative positioning of the components matter, so once you've lined everything up, put witness marks on the boards and maybe a piece of tape on the rear bed to show where to put the back edge of Base B.

As you might guess, the reason for having three top parts, and three parts with roughly the same short dimension, is so you quickly stack up the top pieces in the back and put the passenger seat back into use. Put Tops B and A (with A turned 90 degrees) on top of Top C, then turn Base A over and set it on the driver's side. If you're clever, you can dimension the shorter Top C piece to wedge Base A against the driver's side on top of Top B. Hold everything in place with a clamp along the back edge.

And now on to the outfitting . . .
 
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mhiscox

Expedition Leader
More on the Samurai motorhome . . .

I had the appropriate Thermarest pad, so that went in over the top pieces. You can sorta tuck the pad under the glovebox and around the center console. If you have my size (30 x 76), it works to just line up the pad's top edge with the rear edge of the Sami's bed.

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Then toss on the pillow and the appropriate sleeping bag and you're set for a good night's sleep.

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Well, a good night's sleep if you're short enough. You can stretch out straight if you're under six foot. If you're taller, this may work if you sleep diagonally or bend your knees, but at about 5'11", fortuitiously my approximate height, the length is all you need.

I added a couple more features; motorhomes are well equipped, don't you know? On either side of the "targa bar," I added a pretty bright Costco swiveling LED light; they're sold as motion sensing lights, but they have a regular on/off switch and work pretty well. I also added a length of plastic landscape chain on each side from front to back to clip on your water or whatever bottle, hang your shirt over, etc.

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It's worth noting that if you pull the driver's seat all the way forward, there's a fair amount of space available to hold your clothes or whatever.

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They'll also be space to the left of the pad and you can set things there. And, if you cared to, you could make a hatch in the driver's side of Top C and store things below floor level; that's why the cross brace on Base B is positioned as it is.

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If you have electricity, it's easy to snake the cord under the bottom edge of the soft top. In my case, I had AC available from the Sprinter, so I ran a small electric heater and was very comfortable. You could also take a portable battery pack and a small inverter and have power for electronics, additional lights, etc.

If you are nimble enough (I was, barely) you can get from the bed into the driver's seat and vice-versa. This is a good place to read (with the LED light coming over your shoulder, or to watch a DVD on the three inch screen on the head end I put in a while back. All the comforts of home, eh?

"But there are no curtains," I can hear you say, and you're right. To secure your privacy, you can do something like strategically position your street clothes over the side chains and your sleeping bag sack over the windshield, but I lucked into a more efficient solution. Turns out that I'd bought a Bestop "trail cover" and it was very easy to just throw this over the top. The cover is for a Wrangler--there isn't one for a Sami, I don't believe--so it fits poorly with lots of slack. But this is kind of an advantage, since you can open the doors to get in and out with the cover on.

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Someday, I'll impress you all by doing some real trip with this setup. I actually found it pretty workable, and I've tented enough to know that it beats the heck out of tenting.

No patents, licenses, royalties, etc. So have at it. :sombrero:
 
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bajajoaquin

Adventurer
Would there be a way to make and stow a platform for the driver's side? That way, you could have a minimal camp/sleep for two.
 
:Wow1::Wow1::Wow1:

Wow! Now, I need to get out there this afternoon and do some measurements!! I had not considered building something OVER the front seats!

Thanks for sharing!

PS - You may want to rethink the idea of a lose cover over the Sami while you're inside with someone and getting it on. People might want to swing by and rip the cover off once they hear your activities. It reminds of a group of guys in a quiet part of the campgrounds who had to listen to a couple getting it on for hours. Finally, they had enough and talked among themselves into a solution. They got the strongest guys out of the bunch who grabbed one end of the tent (just a two-person tent) and dragged it behind them as fast as they could. They went into a dark area so they couldn't be identified as they ran away hooting and screaming. It took the lovers a while to get themselves out of the tent and get their bearings. Don't let this happen to you. Shhh...
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
I like the Samurai. Any more info on it? Does it have it's own thread?
Well, not yet, as it's sadly played second (third? fourth?) fiddle to all the other stuff around here.

That said, it is one of the best Samis around. I rescued it from motorhome toad duty so it had very little wear. Plus it's fuel injected and I've added the supremely useful Petroworks 15 gallon tank. But as I mentioned somewhere else, it was doing the OME suspension that made all the difference. It's now a much more useful vehicle than I every expected.

I'll put doing a build thread on the to-do list.
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
Would there be a way to make and stow a platform for the driver's side? That way, you could have a minimal camp/sleep for two.
You'd need someone pretty short on the driver's side as the steering wheel and column make the driver's side space roughly 14" shorter (so you'd need someone about 4'10" or less). There's wouldn't be enough room under the steering wheel for your feet.
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
PS - You may want to rethink the idea of a loose cover over the Sami while you're inside with someone and getting it on.
I know I'm old and not the best judge of such matters, but I can't imagine many couples who could make useful progress in the back of a Samurai. Very short gymnasts, I suppose. :)

However, there are indeed straps on the trail cover that, if you cared, you could strap down for privacy or, in my case, to hold the cover down against the wind.
 
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Deleted member 9101

Guest
Neat little "camper". I have always wanted to build something like that and do a road trip cross country.
 
A great idea, but it won't work for me in my CR-V, as there is the seat completely in the way on the right side AND front edge. There is no way to get even a flat board like that to go from above the seat down to the floor on the right side and the front edge with the seat pushed up front. I did try something else, and it looks like I may have something workable without having to remove any seats. A build thread on that may be coming up in a few months.
 

Riptide

Explorer
Mike, now you just KNOW I'm digging this, as I asked a while back, tongue-in-cheek, if you could scale down your ER mod to Sami-size...

You rock, man.

I just got my OME suspension for my own Sami a few days ago; am gearing up for another summer of trips behind our own Sprinter camper.

I' surprised you didn't fab up a set of drawers for the back area; I'm sure that's in rev 2.
 

Gooseberry

Explorer
I had a 86 hard top and its amazing what can be done in a sami. Ok I was just out of High school and a bit more nimble.



I know I'm old and not the best judge of such matters, but I can't imagine many couples who could make useful progress in the back of a Samurai. Very short gymnasts, I suppose. :)

However, there are indeed straps on the trail cover that, if you cared, you could strap down for privacy or, in my case, to hold the cover down against the wind.
 

theicecreampeople

Adventurer
:Wow1::Wow1::Wow1:

Wow! Now, I need to get out there this afternoon and do some measurements!! I had not considered building something OVER the front seats!

Thanks for sharing!

PS - You may want to rethink the idea of a lose cover over the Sami while you're inside with someone and getting it on. People might want to swing by and rip the cover off once they hear your activities. It reminds of a group of guys in a quiet part of the campgrounds who had to listen to a couple getting it on for hours. Finally, they had enough and talked among themselves into a solution. They got the strongest guys out of the bunch who grabbed one end of the tent (just a two-person tent) and dragged it behind them as fast as they could. They went into a dark area so they couldn't be identified as they ran away hooting and screaming. It took the lovers a while to get themselves out of the tent and get their bearings. Don't let this happen to you. Shhh...

that was you ..lol..love the sami always have they will go almost everywhere ,and now sleeping inside this is great ...and room for a frig behind the driver..
 

mhiscox

Expedition Leader
Mike, now you just KNOW I'm digging this, as I asked a while back, tongue-in-cheek, if you could scale down your ER mod to Sami-size...
That was tongue-in-cheek?! Now you tell me. I took it as a challenge. :sombrero:
I'm surprised you didn't fab up a set of drawers for the back area; I'm sure that's in rev 2.
Well, yeah, drawers and the fridge are the obvious right things to do. Unfortunately, I'll bet my wife thinks it's more important to stop screwin' around and get on with Rev. 1 of the XV-JP's interior, given that that truck is worth about fifteen times as much. ;)
 

77blazerchalet

Former Chalet owner
I'm sure that the audience for this tongue-in-check thread is vanishingly small..
Actually, you may have a bigger audience than you think as you develop this. Many wish to get out in the boondocks and bring along creature comforts such a nice bed. Now that my Chalet is gone, I'm still kicking around a similar idea but in a larger platform, as I mused about in my own "good mpg 4x4 Motorhome-in-a-phonebooth concept" thread a while back. I haven't yet ruled out long wheelbase Suzukis...
 

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