Semi-Flex Panel Mounting - Grommets only, or add tape?

Herbie

Rendezvous Conspirator
Got your best non-permanent methods for attaching a semi-flex panel to an aluminum frame? Datasheet says I've got six grommet holes per panel - would that be enough, mechanically?

I'm doing a bit of a minor upgrade to the solar on my FWC Hawk - The 160w single panel that came from FWC on our camper has suffered a bit in the years since it was first installed - I can see a lot of discoloration/milkiness on the panel and my monitor tells me that output is down overall. We already had an uprated Overland Solar MPPT controller on hand, and I realized that a pair of Renogy 200w Semi-Flex panels was too-cheap-to-pass-up, so I picked them up and will be mounting the whole arrangement soon. I like the idea of using the semi-flex panels because weight on our pop-up roof is always a thing to avoid, even if maybe the panels aren't as durable as a framed/glass panel.

I'd need a new mounting setup anyhow, but I'm not loving the method that was used for the current panel - only 1/2 aluminum angle butted at the corners in a way that flexes the panel a little. Space is tight to fit these two panels between the roof vents, but I'll be building a double-width "ladder" frame of 1" aluminum tubing to span the Yakima tracks and give me something to attach the panels to. This should ensure good airgap behind, and make for a frame that has good support under the panel and is fairly rigid.

Looking at how other folks have attached the semi-flex panels to their frames, it's usually something like adhesive, VHB tape, etc. to adhere the panel to the frame - I know these methods are secure, but it feels weird to use a method that will basically guarantee that the only way to separate the panel from the frame will be to destroy the panel.

Also, given that the wiring connections from panel to the camper will be under the frame, I'd prefer not to use a method that involves permanently affixing the panels to the frame (since I would have to lift the whole arrangement up in one piece while making the electrical connections). This also means I'd have to add extra bracketry to affix the frame to the Yakima tracks since the panels will cover the perimeter of the frame. (If I can affix the panels to the frame after the frame is mounted, I can simply go through the tubing to bolt it to the tracks.) If the six-grommets (with fender washers, etc.) is not necessarily secure enough, I could add tape around the perimeter after the panels are mounted. (What to use? Gorilla tape? Others have used Eternabond but that stuff is $$ and I don't need a watertight connection to the frame, just backup mechanical security and maybe ensuring airflow doesn't get between the panel and frame and cause lift...

Thoughts?
 

Pacific Northwest yetti

Expedition Medic
3M dual lock, with three strips. One on each side, one in the middle. And Eterna bond tape on the leading edge. Clean the surfaces well, and direct to roof.

The temp changes of the aluminum may give you some issued of you try that direct to the panel.

That’s how 300w have been on my outfitter for a long time. Its also how the Zero Declination shop in Reno does it.
 

Herbie

Rendezvous Conspirator
Direct to roof is definitely a no-go - if for no other reason than because the existing roof rails and wiring penetration would be in the way...
 

Hnoroian

Observer
Stainless zip ties through the grommets attached around the frame and rubberized foam gasket attached to under the panel for the dampening.
 

Hnoroian

Observer
I looked up the panel, I kinda wish usps didn’t just happen to stop by my house with a new 60w folding…

I haven’t looked up flexible panels in a long while but that looks nice. You are right, the price was right too.
 

Ozarker

Well-known member
Herbie, hope you take pictures of your solution. I'd like to put panels on my Travel Trailer, mine are ridged but with the same issues. Thinking of going with more flex panels too.

Have you deployed detached panels before? Why fix them on the roof of a tent trailer?

Seems most folks use VHB tape, I hesitate because someday I may need to remove it.

Is your rack system going to tilt? Another issue.

Is it too much effort to put the panels out in the sun on the ground or on the windshield of a vehicle as needed?

Is a fixed solution the best solution?
 

dstock

Explorer
I am not a fan of the flexible panels, having had an Overland Solar panel fail 6 months into ownership. Fun fact, for warranty the panel must be on an "approved frame" and bolted down and vhb'd to the frame as well, but that's another story.

I switched to a rigid 200w Renogy panel on our FWC and have had zero issues since. I got some simple feet off Amazon and bolted them to the Yakima tracks. There's a lot of flex in the FWC roof and I didn't want a permanent installation either cause let's face it, the panels do age, technology changes, etc. That said, I have owned a couple 100 watt Renogy panels that I've had for several years that still work perfectly.
 

Herbie

Rendezvous Conspirator
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So this is where I'm at for the moment. Overall frame dimensions are 57.75" x 63.25", total weight 10.1lbs. (Plus 10.8lbs for each panel - vs. 26.7lbs each for the equivalent rigid panels, So I'm about 21-22 lbs lighter overall.)

Not mounted to the camper yet, because I still need to finish the internal upgrades (fitting the higher-wattage MPPT unit I've had in the box since I bought the camper, new shunt, etc.)
I'm still considering a strip of good outdoor tape along the leading/forward edge, just to rule out any lift between the frame and panel.
 

dstock

Explorer
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So this is where I'm at for the moment. Overall frame dimensions are 57.75" x 63.25", total weight 10.1lbs. (Plus 10.8lbs for each panel - vs. 26.7lbs each for the equivalent rigid panels, So I'm about 21-22 lbs lighter overall.)

Not mounted to the camper yet, because I still need to finish the internal upgrades (fitting the higher-wattage MPPT unit I've had in the box since I bought the camper, new shunt, etc.)
I'm still considering a strip of good outdoor tape along the leading/forward edge, just to rule out any lift between the frame and panel.
I would suggest using VHB tape between the panel and the frame on all parts of the frame. The air flutter from highway speeds is apparently what causes micro fractures in the panels and kills them.
 

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